Wii: A Threat to Gaming?

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheGame

A lot of them? Out of 360, Wii, and Ps3 I've played Wii by far the most, followed by 360, and Ps3 the least amount. (And as you know, I own a Ps3 now and have been putting some time into it, but its going to take weeks for me to even catch up to 360, if I don't lose interest first)

Well you haven't given names or details.
I'm just curious since you found so many cheaply made and gimmicky ones which ones you have actually tried.

So we're switching the conversation to being about what I'm willing to buy?

I didn't feel Ps3, Wii or 360 were worth the price until recently. I can safely say that I've played every game that I've been interested in this generation outside of the new Batman game. In my opinion this is the worst generation of gaming I've been old enough to experience.

So do you have a point ?

I always have a point and a reason, and I think you pretty much nailed it on the head for me.

You don't like where Nintendo is taking the industry,but you don't seem to like the industry's current direction much to begin with.

I mean I am almost certain that anyone of these boards could come up with a handful of games that stand out as extremely extraordinary efforts on any of the 3 major consoles, but you feel this is the worst generation.. go figure.

So let me ask you this, what do you want?

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Well you haven't given names or details.
I'm just curious since you found so many cheaply made and gimmicky ones which ones you have actually tried.

Off the top of my head...

Wii Sports
Madden (Forget which year, assume 08)
Smash Brothers
Resident Evil 4
NBA live 09
Mario Kart
Zelda

I've also played some strange mini games that I don't know exactly what the name of the actual game was.

I always have a point and a reason, and I think you pretty much nailed it on the head for me.

You don't like where Nintendo is taking the industry,but you don't seem to like the industry's current direction much to begin with.

That's true, I don't. Thus why I didn't waste my money supporting it from the gate. This year's madden is the first one where I could say that its honestly as good as the Ps2 version, and that's downright sad.

I'm the type to play everything before I buy it, and thanks to friends and family members I got the oppertunity to do that a lot before buying a console myself. I'll admit that I haven't had extended time with XBL which is supposed to be good for 360 (My experience with the voice chat was retarded 12 year old british kids pissing me off).. and I haven't really messed with the Wii's ability to download old content which could be a very nice feature.. But neither of them drew me in enough on their own merits to buy a console for it.

I mean I am almost certain that anyone of these boards could come up with a handful of games that stand out as extremely extraordinary efforts on any of the 3 major consoles, but you feel this is the worst generation.. go figure.

I never said that there's no good games this generation, heck, one of my favorite games of all time came out this gen..

So let me ask you this, what do you want?

My reply in your "Immersion in Video Games" thread sums up what I go for the most. My favorite genre is RPGs, and I like some action/shooter games. I'm also a fan of sports/racing sims.

For RPGs, I haven't played any good ones this gen yet. The best one I've spent time playing is Oblivion, but I think morrowind is a superior game to Oblivion so it felt like moving backwards. Mass effect is decent, it just doesn't fit my idea of a classic RPG that I enjoy, and I didn't care much for the story (And its far from a 'polished' game).

For action/shooter games.. this gen has been good. I enjoy Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid, GTA4, Call of Duty, .. I even liked perfect dark.

Sports games this gen have been lackluster, especially football games. 2k sports has done good with the NBA games.. but EA has dropped the ball on NFL and NCAA Football. This year's Madden feels a lot better though.. so it might look up. I was blown away by Madden 2001-2002 off the bad last gen.

My general excitement level when it comes to playing video games in general has went down. It could just be me.

[KillerGremlin]

I feel as if BaB needs to validate his Wii every so often with threads of this nature.

I think the Wii is cool. People seem to like it, including those who might not have picked up a game on a console pre-Wii. I think motion controls have huge limitations in serious and casual gaming, but that extends beyond the Wii. I can't believe Sony and Microsoft are jumping on the motion control bandwagon, but fuck...when the Wii is making as much money as it is, why WOULDN'T you make that logical investment.

Do I care? No. Fuck no. The older I get it seems like the less I care about new gaming...I long for nostalgia, social gaming, PC gaming, and vintage shit like Counter-Strike.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I feel as if BaB needs to validate his Wii every so often with threads of this nature.

I think the Wii is cool. People seem to like it, including those who might not have picked up a game on a console pre-Wii. I think motion controls have huge limitations in serious and casual gaming, but that extends beyond the Wii. I can't believe Sony and Microsoft are jumping on the motion control bandwagon, but fuck...when the Wii is making as much money as it is, why WOULDN'T you make that logical investment.

Do I care? No. Fuck no. The older I get it seems like the less I care about new gaming...I long for nostalgia, social gaming, PC gaming, and vintage shit like Counter-Strike.

For once this isn't a validation thread, I am honestly wanted to know if people have an issue with the Wii and its position in gaming.

Like I said this thread got off to the wrong start, but there are people in journalism who want to see this thing fall... and fall hard, and I just don't get that.

I understand not liking something that's understandable, but I don't get why people are so eager to see it wiped off the face of the planet.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

For once this isn't a validation thread, I am honestly wanted to know if people have an issue with the Wii and its position in gaming.

Like I said this thread got off to the wrong start, but there are people in journalism who want to see this thing fall... and fall hard, and I just don't get that.

I understand not liking something that's understandable, but I don't get why people are so eager to see it wiped off the face of the planet.

To me it sounds like a validation thread really. Seems that you haven't moved past your old empty points that may have actually meant something 2 weeks after Ps3 launched. Its pretty much me saying I don't like where gaming has went this gen, while you're trying to make it sound like I'm not qualified to make that judgement for one reason or another.

I actually don't have a problem directly with Wii, other then the fact that it represents a very broken part of the industry in my opinion. You can sit there and say a lot of work went into Wii, which it may have.. but the end result is 5 year old technology being used to make a simplistic shallow game that's nice at parties. (Granted, that's not ALL the games, just the majority of the big sellers)

In my opinion that shouldn't be rewarded.

But the issues Wii has aren't new ones. It just happens to put together exactly what I didn't like about Psx and Ps2, and lost the things that made those systems enjoyable to me anyway dispite their flaws. If Wii was a more hardcore gaming system with more competitive hardware and better support for the games I like (listed in my last post).. then I'd still love it dispite its flaws too.

But instead all I see is the cheap, low priced, rushed, gimmicky system with hardly any of the games I care for being extremely sucsessful. Wii proves that older generation systems won because they were cheap, rushed, and had some attractive gimmick their competition couldn't handle as well. Its just that they happend to have more games that I personally like more on them.

But I'd like to stress again this is my opinion. To me Wii is just the face of what's wrong with the industry. All of the systems have their flaws in my opinion though, its just this thread happens to be about Wii.