Mafia Round 4 - Six Million Forms of Communication - Page 3

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I don't really know what to say. I wanted to trust somebody right away, BaB was a bad choice but he was fairly central in the alliance last game so I decided to start with him.

Now, the things BaB wanted me to believe make me suspicious. He was very protective of Dylflon and Vampyr. It was a bit foolish for him to say things like in the event that he was offed. I think the mafia decided since BaB looked so suspicious they were going to off him in the votes. Thus they make two of their own look innocent. After all, they voted for BaB.

That's why I'm holding to my vote for Dylfon. I firmly believe that he and Vampyr are the last two Mafia.

...

That has got to be the bizarre theory ever.

!retract Tornadothrasher

!vote thatmariolover

I should have just stuck with my original theory to begin with.

thatmariolover · 06-17-2009, 01:51 PM

Is it bizarre? Dylflon even posted at the end of the thread last time that he expected you to change your vote. Which you both conveniently did near the end of the voting cycle.

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

I'm actually expecting Vampyr to change his vote back to BaB. If he can react in time.

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...0&postcount=95

Bond · 06-17-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

!Clarification He also missed a post in 2 rounds, doesn't that disqualify him?

One more round of inactivity and tornadothrasher would be disqualified. Two more rounds of inactivity and Swan would be disqualified.

Bube · 06-17-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tornadothrasher

I know, Jabba isn't usually too quiet of a dude but honestly, I've never played mafia before and instead of pissing everyone off by doing stupid things/not knowing too many people on GT, I'm just trying to roll through the game and figure some stuff out.

No more rolling man, come on, just get in on a theory and vote

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 02:04 PM

Yes, it's so much more likely that two mafia would group together to vote off another mafia when they would already be severely outnumbered.

Also, in the last round Dylflon was far and away the most suspicious player, your reasoning that the mafia would have killed BaB because he was being so suspicious is ridiculous.

Also, if BaB had so many people tricked and on his side, which you and several others had already admitted to, wouldn't the mafia want to keep someone like that around instead of killing him and losing so many potential allies?

thatmariolover · 06-17-2009, 02:10 PM

No, because it's just like BaB. He would come up with some retardedly complicated plot and even if it involved him dying it would still be him winning because he came up with the plan. That's exactly the way his twisted mind works. And you all know it.

Yes, if it would make the two remaining Mafia look innocent I think that's exactly something that BaB would orchestrate, and indeed did orchestrate in my opinion.

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 02:16 PM

But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

thatmariolover · 06-17-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

Which is why I voted for him.

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Which is why I voted for him.

Yes but now, especially after the last few posts, you look much, much more guilty. Plus you -did- vote for Jeepnut last time, which I find more likely a sign of being in the mafia than some convoluted scheme that BaB supposedly concocted which involved the rest of the Mafia voting for him in order to gain the trust of everyone else.

If that had been the plan, the votes wouldn't have went in at the last second, either.

thatmariolover · 06-17-2009, 02:43 PM

How do I look more guilty? Because I pointed out some interesting coincidences? That doesn't make me guilty - it makes me honest. You on the other hand are only interested in shifting the blame to me because I pointed a flashlight on you. You didn't even act like I was guilty until I brought your name into the matter. So if you've got something to say then say it.

But it seems like you're more interested in bringing down the people who are suspicious of you than you are in bringing down the Mafia.

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

How do I look more guilty? Because I pointed out some interesting coincidences? That doesn't make me guilty - it makes me honest. You on the other hand are only interested in shifting the blame to me because I pointed a flashlight on you. You didn't even act like I was guilty until I brought your name into the matter. So if you've got something to say then say it.

But it seems like you're more interested in bringing down the people who are suspicious of you than you are in bringing down the Mafia.

Um, yes I did act like you were guilty before this. I listed you, Nighthawk, and Swan.

I changed my vote to that tornado guy after you and nighthawk posted about BaB tricking you, because he tried the same thing on me and I felt you might be telling some truth.

But then you flipped out for some reason, which brought my attention back to you.

Which has be wondering two things:

Why would you do that if my vote wasn't currently on you?

This either means that tornado is the other mafia and you needed to protect him, or you are a villager. But if you are a villager it doesn't make sense to bring so much attention to yourself with a weird and far fetched theory.

thatmariolover · 06-17-2009, 02:52 PM

You contradict yourself, though.

I mean, you say:

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...8&postcount=37

And yet according to Dylflon in the last thread you guys were communicating behind the scenes:

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

I'm actually expecting Vampyr to change his vote back to BaB. If he can react in time.

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...0&postcount=95

To which you did indeed promptly change your vote.

So which is it, you thought he was innocent before? Or he's never been innocent? Because you're contradicting yourself.

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 02:57 PM

I have not communicated with Dyl until after that last round was over.

The reason I changed my vote, and the reason he suspected me too, was because my vote for Dylflon was a wasted one, with only a couple of minutes left and him having only 1 or 2 votes, there was no hope that anyone was going to go for him.

Like I said in the last thread, I didn't care who died as long as it was BaB, Dyl, or Jeepnut.

BaB dying has at least vindicated Jeepnut, and partially vindicated Dyl. I do not totally believe Dylflon is innocent, but I do so more than I did in the last round.

BlueFire · 06-17-2009, 03:44 PM

As far as I'm concerned, this constant bickering always concerns the same group of people while we still have a number of others who are relatively "quiet" and just drop in to vote, say a few lines, and disappear. I'm not openly accusing anyone, but I'm insinuating that we should probably "expand our horizons."

However, that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that we're suspicious of each other. I understand I'm a main suspect now, mostly due to my indecisiveness, my erratic voting pattern, etc.

Bube, I find it a curious thing that you are now voting against me when in Round 2, you rightly messaged me and told told me your thoughts on Combine being evil. However, in the same message, I believe you said Ric was in the same league as Combine? I should have believed you and voted with you on your first point, but I was sure Ric wasn't mafia (esp. since we communicated a lot). But whatever, that was just two rounds ago, right?

However, Angrist (I think..too lazy to check

) says I threw a vote away last round, and that I did. I didn't want any part in the jeepnut/BaB battle and instead voted for Angrist (which some have called a throwaway vote and made me look suspicious?) based on suspicion and his voting record... but you, Bube, had kept your vote for BaB until..
http://gametavern.net/forums/showpos...5&postcount=52
You retracted and "threw your vote" for Swan. My "throwaway vote" is seen as suspicious. Yours isn't.

Also, you knew about Fyacin and his role as the vigilante, along with Germanator and jeepnut. How were the members of the mafia able to kill off one of our most valuable members? Dumb luck? I find that hard to believe.

Lastly, I know you talked to BaB, but I'm pretty sure BaB talked to everyone he could talk to in this game.

I obviously suspect you, but I'm always slow with these sort of things. I'm currently debating whether or not to vote for you-- especially because I don't want my vote to be seen as a "reactionary vote".

But as I said at the start of this post, the same people keep bickering while there is still a odd number of people who are relatively quiet. I suggest we investigate this more.

Vampyr · 06-17-2009, 04:00 PM

I'm not suspicious of BlueFire because he could have voted for Jeepnut and tipped the scale, saving BaB.

What we have to look at here is that they were 1 vote away from being tied. Anyone that didn't vote for Jeepnut is -probably- not a Mafia, since they could have at least tied it, giving them a chance to save BaB.

Unless...they didn't post, which really makes things hard to judge.