BREAKING: Clinton pwns Obama

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Seriously. Do we really need to go back and rub stuff like this in?

Im not really rubbing anything in, im just showing everyone the Professor included that I was right and he was wrong. There's more to come, stay tuned

[Professor S]

Jason, are you really this bored?

And by the way, I agree you were right on this election, but thats not through any special intellectual acuity on your part. If you throw paint against a wall long enough you'll eventually create the Mona Lisa, but that doesn't make you an artist...

And this was well before the economic collapse that changed EVERYTHING.

[Dylflon]

I think Obama still would have taken it without the financial implosion.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

I think Obama still would have taken it without the financial implosion.

There is a decent chance that he would have won, but you have to admit that the race would have been much closer if the markets had remained steady and I think McCain would have had the upper hand, and the polls at the time reflect that as McCain was winning before the markets tanked. After the markets tanked, everyone forgot about the Saddleback forum, Obama's suspect personal relationships and the Georgia crisis, and all of those went solidly in favor of McCain. The economic crisis changed the entire dialogue of the campaign, and the social issues that would have heavily favored McCain became one questions footnotes in the debates.

There are more factors, including The Palin Effect that I'm going to write about in a separate thread, where I argue that Palin did more to hurt McCain's chances in the election, even though she energized the base. The fact of the matter is, the base of either party doesn't win elections...

But I think McCain would have lost regardless considering the current state of the economy. It sealed the deal for Obama.

[Dyne]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

I think Obama still would have taken it without the financial implosion.

It's not an implosion - it's affecting everybody.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Dyne

It's not an implosion - it's affecting everybody.

I'm aware. i'm just tired of using the word crisis or collapse. But considering the market collapsed on itself I think implosion is a fair word.