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Old 03-05-2008, 04:08 PM   #1
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Here is why Obama is a dead man in the general election:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2369157.shtml

Specifically the part where he voted to not have medical care given to abortions that survive. Essentially, that opinion states that even when a child is out of the womb, and still living, it is not a human being and may be left to die because the INTENT was to kill it. So intent is what matters, not the reality that if this were a premature baby of the same developmental stage, every effort both mandated by ethics, morality and LAW would be made to save it. Its an enabling of infanticide through negligence and is disgusting.

Can you imagine the mental picture made when national ads are broadcast about this issue? How many centrist Obama supporters would run from his campaign?

He's a dead man in the general election, IMO.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:43 PM   #2
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Specifically the part where he voted to not have medical care given to abortions that survive. Essentially, that opinion states that even when a child is out of the womb, and still living, it is not a human being and may be left to die because the INTENT was to kill it.
So? I agree with that. And I think any normal Pro-Choice viewing person would also.

This is America, abortions are legal, and conservatives need to just stop whining about it.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:55 PM   #3
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So? I agree with that. And I think any normal Pro-Choice viewing person would also.

This is America, abortions are legal, and conservatives need to just stop whining about it.
Actually, you're wrong on several accounts, and not just on moral and logical grounds which I won't address on this post.

1) All abortions are not legal, and partial birth have been happily outlawed for a few years now.

2) Most centrist to right wing people are against late term abortion when specifically asked about it, for obvious reasons. The partial birth ban was easily passed.

I'm center-right and I'm pro-choice as well, but late term abortuion makes me sick as I consider it legalized murder and the thought of a failed abortion or better named... a BABY..., LIVING ON ITS OWN outside of its mother's womb, on a doctor's table being left to die makes my stomach churn.

None of my thoughts on election outcomes are based on my affiliations, but instead of what has been a historically centrist voter base that has decided elections, and there will be MANY centrist independents who will be shocked and disgusted by Obama's voting record on this issue.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:56 PM   #4
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I couldve sworn someone said Obama was a dead man in the general election...who was that again? Oh yea...

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Here is why Obama is a dead man in the general election:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2369157.shtml

Specifically the part where he voted to not have medical care given to abortions that survive. Essentially, that opinion states that even when a child is out of the womb, and still living, it is not a human being and may be left to die because the INTENT was to kill it. So intent is what matters, not the reality that if this were a premature baby of the same developmental stage, every effort both mandated by ethics, morality and LAW would be made to save it. Its an enabling of infanticide through negligence and is disgusting.

Can you imagine the mental picture made when national ads are broadcast about this issue? How many centrist Obama supporters would run from his campaign?

He's a dead man in the general election, IMO.
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