Raw 2 is the king of visuals

Null · 09-05-2003, 10:09 PM

its because of the flexibility of the models,

when they have stiff models they are slow and have no 'flow' as you put it.
the old SD games had stiff models and while the N64 ones had very loose flexible ones. game flows more because of it.

I think they should make a wrestling game using the Soul Calibur 2 engine.

Professor S · 09-06-2003, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

I think they should make a wrestling game using the Soul Calibur 2 engine.

So you want a fighting game with wrestlers in it. No thanks. Maybe I'm a purist but I like my wrestoing games and fighting games separate.

Null · 09-07-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

So you want a fighting game with wrestlers in it. No thanks. Maybe I'm a purist but I like my wrestoing games and fighting games separate.

when did i ever say that? I'll just take it as you have absolutly no clue on what i was talking about. It has nothing to do with what type of game it is. I said they should use the SC2 ENGINE, and make a wrestling game with it.

TheGame · 09-07-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

when did i ever say that? I'll just take it as you have absolutly no clue on what i was talking about. It has nothing to do with what type of game it is. I said they should use the SC2 ENGINE, and make a wrestling game with it.

The SC2 "Engine" is a fighting game engine... unless I'm missing somhing... explain yourself further

Professor S · 09-07-2003, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

when did i ever say that? I'll just take it as you have absolutly no clue on what i was talking about. It has nothing to do with what type of game it is. I said they should use the SC2 ENGINE, and make a wrestling game with it.

Null, when wrestling game fans refer to the "engine" they are referring to the gameplay engine. The pacing. The collision detection. The strike to grapple ratio. Etc.

What engine are you referring to?

Null · 09-07-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Null, when wrestling game fans refer to the "engine" they are referring to the gameplay engine. The pacing. The collision detection. The strike to grapple ratio. Etc.

What engine are you referring to?

none of that is set in stone, developers can change thoes sort of things. .. The engine doesnt force you to anything. it just sets up the basic things for you.

The engine is the gameplay, to a certain extent. it does a lot of the basic code, graphics, collision detection, things like that.

but it in no way decides how the game is handled. you'd be surprised how many games run on the same engine, you could get a FPS engine and make a car racing game if you wished. XIII, (the cel shaded FPS game) runs on the new Unreal Games engine. etc.

The way im refering to it in this case is... SC2 has a wonderful colision detection, models are very flexable. Its in 3D so you can make it any view angle one wished to make. IMO, a basic engine like that would be wonderful in a wrestling game. instead of how some wrestling games are that look like your sliding a cardboard cut out around. sure they may look real, but they move like they have a 2x4 for a spine, (maybe the newer ones like RAW 2 im hoping will be much more flexible)

TheGame · 09-08-2003, 01:54 AM

I get what you mean now...

Raw 2 looks good as far as that goes. XIX and SD errrr... Raw still may have the look in the end too, but it's not as obvious when I look at videos.

Professor S · 09-08-2003, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

none of that is set in stone, developers can change thoes sort of things. .. The engine doesnt force you to anything. it just sets up the basic things for you.

The engine is the gameplay, to a certain extent. it does a lot of the basic code, graphics, collision detection, things like that.

but it in no way decides how the game is handled. you'd be surprised how many games run on the same engine, you could get a FPS engine and make a car racing game if you wished. XIII, (the cel shaded FPS game) runs on the new Unreal Games engine. etc.

The way im refering to it in this case is... SC2 has a wonderful colision detection, models are very flexable. Its in 3D so you can make it any view angle one wished to make. IMO, a basic engine like that would be wonderful in a wrestling game. instead of how some wrestling games are that look like your sliding a cardboard cut out around. sure they may look real, but they move like they have a 2x4 for a spine, (maybe the newer ones like RAW 2 im hoping will be much more flexible)

Gotcha.

Now that I know what you're talking about, that doesn't sound like a half bad idea.

TheGame · 09-08-2003, 12:40 PM

I've decided to get more indepth with the comparisions (If you are an IGN insider you can see more, if you aren't well, only a few will work)

Raw:
-Goldberg
-The Rock
-Stacy
-Stone Cold

XIX:
-Goldberg (insider)
-The Rock (insider, and don't pay too much attention to old music)
-Stacy (insider)
-Stone Cold (insider, and you'll have to sit through Goldust first)

Smackdown:
-Goldberg
-The Rock
-No Stacy sadly
-Stone Cold

These are just intros though... I will post some match comparisions later. Just looking at intro's what do you think though? Insiders will notice which game is far behind in this area

nWoCHRISnWo · 09-07-2003, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

So you want a fighting game with wrestlers in it. No thanks. Maybe I'm a purist but I like my wrestoing games and fighting games separate.

You mean you didn't love Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game?

And I agree completely. That's why I don't really like the SD games, they seem way too arcadey and more like a fighting game than a wrestling game almost. Not as bad as Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game and In Your House or whatever it's sequal was called of course, as those actually WERE fighting games.