Hands On: Unreal Championship - Page 3

gekko · 05-29-2002, 06:52 PM

Halo is a PC FPS. I don't care if Doom III comes out on Xbox first (

), it's still a PC FPS. Bungie was developing it for the PC long before they were bought out. It was designed to be played on PC, just they had to change things up for the controller. It's still a PC FPS, no matter what.

It's like Splinter Cell, it's a PC FPS, but it'll be out on Xbox first. Still, it's a game meant for PC, part of a PC series, and that's what makes it a PC FPS. It's no Metroid, TimeSplitters, GoldenEye, or Turok.

And Halo is being redesigned to take advantage of the PC platform. And if it's more than just a port with added online features for PC, you know they messed up the game quite a bit bringing it to Xbox.

Professor S · 05-29-2002, 07:53 PM

Did I just read that? Bungie MESSED UP bringing Halo to the XBox? Now you're REALLY reaching. BTW, Bungie is bringing Halo to the PC, not the other way around, no matter how you rationalize it.

Yeah, Bungie sure messed up making the GAME OF THE YEAR.

gekko · 05-29-2002, 08:01 PM

Bungie BROUGHT Halo to Xbox, from PC.

Professor S · 05-29-2002, 08:13 PM

Oh wait, when was it released on PC?

NEVER?

I guess you're right then.

Bond · 05-29-2002, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
Bungie BROUGHT Halo to Xbox, from PC.

Who was intended to get Halo? PC.
Who got Halo in the end, first? Xbox.
Where is Halo being ported to? The PC.

Seriously gekko, this is factual information you can't twist and turn to your liking. Halo was released first for the Xbox and will come out to the PC and Mac. Online play has not been confirmed.

Oh yeah, Bungie did not mess up game of the year, rated by EGM the best selling videogame magazine. A game that had an 80% attachment rating in Europe, the highest attachment rating for a game to a console ever. A game that is the best selling Xbox videogame ever.

Professor S · 05-29-2002, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
And Halo is being redesigned to take advantage of the PC platform. And if it's more than just a port with added online features for PC, you know they messed up the game quite a bit bringing it to Xbox.

This one comment brings EVERYTHING you have posted to this point into question.

gekko · 05-29-2002, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Bond

Who was intended to get Halo? PC.
Who got Halo in the end, first? Xbox.
Where is Halo being ported to? The PC.

Seriously gekko, this is factual information you can't twist and turn to your liking. Halo was released first for the Xbox and will come out to the PC and Mac. Online play has not been confirmed.

Oh yeah, Bungie did not mess up game of the year, rated by EGM the best selling videogame magazine. A game that had an 80% attachment rating in Europe, the highest attachment rating for a game to a console ever. A game that is the best selling Xbox videogame ever.

Halo isn't being ported, last time I checked. It was being designed for Mac, until MS bought them out. Then that game left from there anf finished development on Xbox. Now they're going back and finishing the PC version, from the sounds of it. PC and Mac users haven't waited this whole time for just a port.

And online play was planned from the start with Halo. It was supposed to be online. Also, name the last FPS released on PC without online play?

And messed up from the original version. Not messed up, like screwed it up. They did the best they could with the restrictions Xbox imposed. It's messed up from how it was meant to be.

gekko · 05-29-2002, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
Oh wait, when was it released on PC?

NEVER?

I guess you're right then.

Glad you're catching on

Bond · 05-29-2002, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by gekko

Halo isn't being ported, last time I checked. It was being designed for Mac, until MS bought them out. Then that game left from there anf finished development on Xbox. Now they're going back and finishing the PC version, from the sounds of it. PC and Mac users haven't waited this whole time for just a port.

And online play was planned from the start with Halo. It was supposed to be online. Also, name the last FPS released on PC without online play?

And messed up from the original version. Not messed up, like screwed it up. They did the best they could with the restrictions Xbox imposed. It's messed up from how it was meant to be.

So far online play has not been officialy confirmed for the PC version of Halo. You can speculate all you want, but it has not been officaily confirmed. Although online play has been officialy confirmed for the next installment of Halo on the Xbox.

Also, how can a game be messed up from how it was meant to be if you never even knew what it was meant to be?

gekko · 05-29-2002, 09:22 PM

Online was mentioned way back before anyone knew who Bungie was. This game was shown and talked about long before any Xbox fans knew what it was.

gekko · 05-29-2002, 09:26 PM

And here we do have more word of online:

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Chris: Well , I think what we really want to do for Halo on the PC, is to take full advantage of what the PC has to offer and you know we really want to obviously take advantage of the multiplayer aspect that you can do on the PC.
In terms of Halo 2, I don’t know on the console side, I don’t know what I can tell you, it’s more of an Xbox question.
I don’t have much more to tell you than it’s still belated in terms of the exact timing of when it’s going to happen. It's still undetermined. But obviously if it comes down to what the real focus is going to be, what we're going to try to do is make it more than just a port of the console experience. And really try to design it around to what the PC has to offer, which is the online play.

Interview done of May 23. PR Manager of Microsoft Games.

Professor S · 05-30-2002, 10:15 AM

I'm seeing a whole lot of "want to do" and "try to do" in that quote, I wouldn't take it as the word of God, and STILL, nothing has been confirmed.

You're taking a whole lot of opinion and conjecture and trying to make it into fact in this topic. Fact is fact, and nothing else is.

FACT: Halo is a CONSOLE GAME. It is on a console, not the PC. Funny how simple that is when you use logic skills.

FACT: No online plans have been CONFIRMED for the PC version of Halo. "Wants" and "Tries" don't cut it.

FACT: A release date for the PC version of Halo hasn't even been annouced yet. Halo 2 will probably be out for the XBox when Halo is finally released on the PC. But I'm sure it will be worth the wait since they screwed up the XBox version so much

What made Halo so great WASN'T the multiplayer game, it was the compelling storyline and fantastic single player and co-op modes. It doesn't NEED an online multiplayer to be a great game, it already is one, and I believe 99.9% of gaming journalists agree with me on that.

As for aiming being too slow with console online FPS, its really irrelevant because EVERYONE turns and aims slower so everyone is on the same level.

gekko · 05-30-2002, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
FACT: Halo is a CONSOLE GAME. It is on a console, not the PC. Funny how simple that is when you use logic skills.

You're a quick one. It's also a PC game, what's your point? You obviously have no clue what this entire topic is about if you think i'm saying Halo is a PC game, not a console game. I'd recommend not continuing this, cause you got lost a long time ago.

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Originally posted by The Strangler
FACT: No online plans have been CONFIRMED for the PC version of Halo. "Wants" and "Tries" don't cut it.

OMG, you're an idiot. I'm not even gonna bother with this one.

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Originally posted by The Strangler
FACT: A release date for the PC version of Halo hasn't even been annouced yet. Halo 2 will probably be out for the XBox when Halo is finally released on the PC. But I'm sure it will be worth the wait since they screwed up the XBox version so much

No, a release date has not been announced. And yes, Xbox will have Halo 2 first. But you don't think Microsoft is porting Halo to PC do you? The only reason it's not on PC right now is because Microsoft wants to milk the franchise for all it's worth to get Xbox sales. Now they'll release Halo 2, or what is rumored to be Halo 2 (I doubt it's a full sequel so quick, unless this is Pheonix), and then release the PC/Mac version this winter/spring. It allows them to try to get people online with Xbox Live, but after that, MS is gonna try to make a profit on it by releasing it on PC and Mac. And they won't make much money if they release a year old game.

MS doesn't screw over their PC gamers, cause they make them a lot more profit than Xbox ever will. Just right now, they need all the help they can get, and they need Halo to try to sell more Xbox consoles, and sell the Xbox Live service. Because we're not stupid here, $50 and free online service is a much better deal than $200 for Xbox, $50 for Halo 2, and $50 for Xbox Live.

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Originally posted by The Strangler
What made Halo so great WASN'T the multiplayer game, it was the compelling storyline and fantastic single player and co-op modes. It doesn't NEED an online multiplayer to be a great game, it already is one, and I believe 99.9% of gaming journalists agree with me on that.

Halo doesn't need online play, hell, some online RPGs don't really need online play. But look at games like Counter-Strike, you think anyone would still be playing that if it wasn't online? Xbox LAN is great, and without a doubt better than playing online, but it's not really practical, and unless you have tons of people in your house, it's not something you'll do often. Online multiplayer is just supposed to make the experience better.

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As for aiming being too slow with console online FPS, its really irrelevant because EVERYONE turns and aims slower so everyone is on the same level.

You bring up the original topic in this conversation. Xbox vs. Xbox doesn't give anyone an advantage, but for games like Unreal, it completely changes the flow of the game.

And feel free to reply to this topic, but I'm ending my input here. I'll wait for a new debate, this one got old a while ago.

Professor S · 05-30-2002, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
Halo is a PC FPS. I don't care if Doom III comes out on Xbox first (), it's still a PC FPS. Bungie was developing it for the PC long before they were bought out. It was designed to be played on PC, just they had to change things up for the controller. It's still a PC FPS, no matter what.

Um, exactly who lost track of this topic? You have contradicted yourself on the same page. So who is an idiot now? LOL!!! You're a quick one...

And please post the link where online play for the PC version of Halo is CONFIRMED please... still waiting... can't find it... gee, funny. Will it have online play? Probably, but once again you are stating opinion and conjecture as fact. Its a pretty big character flaw and you look into it.

I never said Halo wasn't coming to the PC either. I just said it was going to take forever and by that time no one will probably care anymore because Halo 2 will be out. So whats your point? Oh wait, you're not posting on this topic anymore because you keep on making yourself look stupid.

As for Unreal, when was it said that console gamers would be facing off against PC gamers? I don't know for sure but I highly doubt they would let that happen. Link please.

Anyway, have fun on the other threads, its been fun exposing you.