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Old 10-15-2013, 09:19 AM   #1
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Actually, believe Xbox and PS3 are still fairly neck and neck with Xbox having a slight lead.

I don't think either will outsell the Wii worldwide because sales have slowed.. granted they still have several price cuts to work through, but I feel kind of lack large evergreen titles that will keep folks buying for years later.

That said, I do see the PS4 launching from a much stronger position than the Xbox and being 100 bucks cheaper won't hurt.

The one advantage I will grant MS is I still think Halo/Gears is a much stronger combo than any of Sony's IPs ability to sell or be out within the first year of release.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:28 AM   #2
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I also think it's going to be pretty close, but PS4 will take an early lead due to the cheaper price.

I'm going to wait for KH3 before I buy one though. I feel like by then any obvious hardware issues will have been worked out and I can judge which console is truly better for me.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:34 PM   #3
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Actually, believe Xbox and PS3 are still fairly neck and neck with Xbox having a slight lead.
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I use vgcharts, as recommended by users here lol. According to the worldwide figures Sony has surpassed Microsoft by over a million, and on a week to week basis has been outselling it by a big margin every week.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:44 PM   #4
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I use vgcharts, as recommended by users here lol. According to the worldwide figures Sony has surpassed Microsoft by over a million, and on a week to week basis has been outselling it by a big margin every week.
VGChartz is an awful site

And a million is still running fairly neck and neck.

Give it a few weeks, believe MS/Sony/Nintendo are all due to announce their Q2 results for the year.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:37 PM   #5
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I've heard the numbers on vgcharts are mostly made up or extrapolated heavily based on small data sets.

Another thing to consider is that when Microsoft first announced all of Xbones crazy DRM and always online stuff - that blew up huge in mainstream media. Everyone knew about it, even people that don't follow games on the internet.

When M$ backed off, that didn't really get that much mainstream coverage. Plenty of people still think the Xbone won't let them play used games or trade with friends. That's probably going to affect early sales.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:10 PM   #6
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I've heard the numbers on vgcharts are mostly made up or extrapolated heavily based on small data sets.

Another thing to consider is that when Microsoft first announced all of Xbones crazy DRM and always online stuff - that blew up huge in mainstream media. Everyone knew about it, even people that don't follow games on the internet.

When M$ backed off, that didn't really get that much mainstream coverage. Plenty of people still think the Xbone won't let them play used games or trade with friends. That's probably going to affect early sales.
I think VGchartz is decent for older sales because they tend to update with actual info from companies' financial statements and press releases

But as an on-going source, they are terrible.
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:42 AM   #7
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I think VGchartz is decent for older sales because they tend to update with actual info from companies' financial statements and press releases

But as an on-going source, they are terrible.
So what is a better source for the "on going" numbers?

I has different sources (including wiki) placing Ps3 ahead of 360 back when they were around 50-55 million sales. But everyone said that the other sources were wrong and vgcharts was closer to reality. Now that Ps3 have overtaken 360 for a long stretch of time on vgchartz it's no longer valid? lol.

Why is it hard to believe Ps3 is out in front? Even if it were a tie right now, the fact that 360 had a head start would mean Ps3 is at least moving at a better pace.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:33 AM   #8
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So what is a better source for the "on going" numbers?

I has different sources (including wiki) placing Ps3 ahead of 360 back when they were around 50-55 million sales. But everyone said that the other sources were wrong and vgcharts was closer to reality. Now that Ps3 have overtaken 360 for a long stretch of time on vgchartz it's no longer valid? lol.

Why is it hard to believe Ps3 is out in front? Even if it were a tie right now, the fact that 360 had a head start would mean Ps3 is at least moving at a better pace.
I never doubted that the PS3 was out in front?

I just questioned the use of VGChartz as a source.

And as far as I know, WE never told you other sources were invalid. I'm only telling you from experience that THEY are highly unreliable.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/782.../1100-6411865/

Earlier in the year Xbox 360 at 78.2, PS3 at 77

Sure we'll get more updated numbers soon.
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:49 AM   #9
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Another thing to consider is that when Microsoft first announced all of Xbones crazy DRM and always online stuff - that blew up huge in mainstream media. Everyone knew about it, even people that don't follow games on the internet.

When M$ backed off, that didn't really get that much mainstream coverage. Plenty of people still think the Xbone won't let them play used games or trade with friends. That's probably going to affect early sales.
Yeah I think Ps4 has already been crowned the winner by the mainstream. It's crazy how a little mistake early on can hurt your popularity. Right now Sony has the momentum, and can only hurt themselves.
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