Mass Effect 3

[Vampyr]

Combine hit it on the head - it's just lazy, especially for something fans of the series had been excited to see since the first game.

There's a lot of laziness in Mass Effect. The fact that they never designed a model for a single female Turian, even though we know there are female Turien soldiers (Garrus tells a story about one). The fact that they also never created a model for a female Solarian.

But choosing to reveal how Tali looks in this way is just beyond lazy.

I mean, people praise Mass Effect for how awesome and in depth the lore and universe is.....we've never seen a female Turien/Solarian!

The internet is decimating proper conversation, and it's bugging the shit out of me. Everything now is all about getting your one-liner in, and "fuck the other guy." It's not about the content of your message - and hell - you're probably not reading the other guys' shit anyways - you just want to mock someone over the internet to try and get other assholes to like you! Yeah! Internet popularity! They'll just edit out that part of the post as if it had never been said, and simply focus in on the talking points they want.
Damn internet. I need a joint now. Yes, that's what I need.

This really doesn't mean much coming from you, lately. Any time a discussion gets serious or someone makes some points that you aren't prepared to handle, you end the argument by saying you were just joshing around and that internet discussions don't mean anything to you other than a way to pass the time while making tea.

It makes me not even want to respond to you at all.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

This really doesn't mean much coming from you, lately. Any time a discussion gets serious or someone makes some points that you aren't prepared to handle, you end the argument by saying you were just joshing around and that internet discussions don't mean anything to you other than a way to pass the time while making tea.

It makes me not even want to respond to you at all.

I love you Typh, but this is kind of true.

P.S. I love tea.

[Typhoid]

On topic Off-topic forum heart to heart time:

Oh, I'm totally aware it's true and how the forum perceives me. I'm doing it to myself, after all. I'm usually just 'posting'. Simply responding to the words said rather than those who say them unless I'm referring to someone by name or leaving their quote in the post or something hopefully-obvious.
You've also got to understand that since my back has been fucked over the last 2 years and I can't get out and do anything - this forum is really the only chance I get for daily 'talking to/at other human beings/expressing what's on my mind'. Which is why my posts have been getting longer and longer over the last while to now, and more debate-like and appear to be on every topic.
I don't get real conversation anymore, because I'm always stuck inside left to simply attempt to entertain myself, and post. The world becomes very small when you can't use your lower back properly. So I just tend to post what I'm thinking on whatever because it passes my time, and I have had 24 free hours every day for the last 800-ish days. It just happens that I was a dink when I was a drugged-up teenager, so whenever I say anything now I seem much more confrontational than I'm really intending to be. I'm not intending for anything remotely malicious. If I aim a joke at someone, it's always in 'fun' [from my end]. British-like. You poke fun at the people you're comfortable around, and not the people you're not.

Any time a discussion gets serious or someone makes some points that you aren't prepared to handle, you end the argument by saying you were just joshing around and that internet discussions don't mean anything to you other than a way to pass the time while making tea.

The reason for that is because when I'm just doing it because I see an opening for conversation I don't really give an invested crap in that side, and am simply expressing my current opinion on it. And if it starts getting out of hand, of course I want to diffuse the situation and back down. I'd be crazy not to. If it's something I'm being legitimate about, I'll usually try to explain it out like a normal person. I'm not doing it because I feel defeated, I'm doing it because I really don't care about what I was talking about and for everyone's sake want to end the conversation before it gets farther than it is on the confrontational end. I do that in real life, too. If a joke or ramble-bit I'm doing gets too out-of-hand with someone, I'll apologize and diffuse it immediately. I am a very apologetic person. I apologize to my table when I bump it. I kicked my shoe last night by accident when I was stretching out and as a reflex under my breath I said "Sorry" - I was the only person in the room.

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Back to Adam!

And you know thats the exact face they wanted to go with how

I wasn't referring to the specific picture used, I was referring to the style of Tali. If they didn't model Tali on that photo - it would have been another photo. But the features would be the same, purple, blue lines etc. That's all I meant, the features would be the same, not the physical face or photograph.

Realistically maybe the person in charge wasn't very artistic, and couldn't create a backdrop, and only had schooling in photoshop and didn't really think "Hey, people are going to cram sand up my vag for this one because I'm not spending enough time on it."

I also find it silly how people (I don't mean you, or those here. I mean the super internet fanboys) are so legitimately agitated about it. That in itself amuses me.

The reason for this is you love cocks. Bam!
If you were actually referring to me not quoting/responding to the other half of your first post on this topic its cause it seemed to be going off topic and I didnt feel the need to argue against that.

Love is such a strong word. Appreciate, maybe.

That part of my post was actually just a ramble that wasnt tied to anything other than what Ginkasa said to what I had said - which is why I attempted to separate it with some snazzy hyphens to form a line. But after reading it I thought it best not to derail the thread more, and decided to delete it - but I didn't get to it quick enough.


Edit: And yes. Tea is delicious.

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I wasn't referring to the specific picture used, I was referring to the style of Tali. If they didn't model Tali on that photo - it would have been another photo. But the features would be the same, purple, blue lines etc. That's all I meant, the features would be the same, not the physical face or photograph.

Shes not actually purple, thats just the quality of the photo on the datapad.

Realistically maybe the person in charge wasn't very artistic, and couldn't create a backdrop, and only had schooling in photoshop and didn't really think "Hey, people are going to cram sand up my vag for this one because I'm not spending enough time on it."

The they shouldnt have hired him!

Love is such a strong word. Appreciate, maybe.

That part of my post was actually just a ramble that wasnt tied to anything other than what Ginkasa said to what I had said - which is why I attempted to separate it with some snazzy hyphens to form a line. But after reading it I thought it best not to derail the thread more, and decided to delete it - but I didn't get to it quick enough.


Edit: And yes. Tea is delicious.

Ok, thought you might been all like, "awww what a dick, he completely ignored half of my post". But if its just you rambling then its all good.
And yes, tea is delicious.

[Typhoid]

Ok, thought you might been all like, "awww what a dick, he completely ignored half of my post". But if its just you rambling then its all good.

No - you don't get it.
I dont really think that people are dicks if they ignore part of a post. I don't honestly expect everyone on the internet to respond back to every single line of question posed by everyone else.
That paragraph wasn't serious, just pointless rambling. That's why I deleted it. I was trying to avoid this.

The they shouldnt have hired him!

See. That. That I agree with.

Edit: It's not really like I was (trying to) disagree with anything. Since it seems so silly to me I was trying to pry into why "They didnt spend a lot of time on this photograph of this character" is such a big deal considering the character would have looked relatively the same because I doubt when they make the characters they just do it on the fly. They probably agree on the features beforehand, and then go and make it.



Editedit:

There's a lot of laziness in Mass Effect. The fact that they never designed a model for a single female Turian, even though we know there are female Turien soldiers (Garrus tells a story about one). The fact that they also never created a model for a female Solarian.

I agree. But is that the case because of legitimate laziness or because they just wanted to leave in some mystery? Because I'm sure if you had hordes of people clamoring for some pictures of female Turians/Solarians some would get photoshopped up right quick. Maybe that's entirely not the case and it's pure laziness. I wouldn't doubt that at all. Maybe there are hordes of people clamoring for female Turians and Solarians. I wouldn't doubt that, either.

[Vampyr]

Coffee is better than tea.

I think this conversation has revealed to me what I dislike most about Mass Effect. I should note that I haven't played ME 3 yet, but when I do I'm sure I'll enjoy it a lot.

My biggest gripe is that they had an opportunity to create the greatest game and game series of this generation, and they squandered it. What we're left with is still really good, but when I look at all the potential it had I can't help but be more critical of it than I would of any other game.

Mass Effect 1 started off extremely strong. It was the first game I had played in a long time that really sucked me in. I'd be thinking about it while in class, just waiting to get back home to re-enter the world. It did have some problems though. The Mako had horrendous controls, the inventory system was bad.

ME 2 rolls around and they have a chance to fix that stuff. But for some reason they completely remove the mako instead of fixing the controls and replace it with a boring as hell scan system. Instead of fixing the inventory they remove it and pretty much remove the gear aspect of RPG's, which is my favorite part.

So ME3 they have a chance to do everything right. Instead it's pretty obvious that the game is rushed out. Mass Effect is such an important series to the entire video game culture, and they rushed it out. It deserved so much better. Just from the outside looking in I can see areas where they cobbled together pieces from the previous two games to make some half-hearted attempt at a new system. The way space travel and reaper encounters work, the way side quests are picked up, the way the ending is handled. They invested in multiplayer when they should have invested in the single player.

Is it still a great, fun game? I'm sure it is. It looks good, I'm excited to play it.

But it won't be remembered as the greatest game of this generation, and the tragedy is that it could have been.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

Coffee is better than tea.

I think this conversation has revealed to me what I dislike most about Mass Effect. I should note that I haven't played ME 3 yet, but when I do I'm sure I'll enjoy it a lot.

My biggest gripe is that they had an opportunity to create the greatest game and game series of this generation, and they squandered it. What we're left with is still really good, but when I look at all the potential it had I can't help but be more critical of it than I would of any other game.

Mass Effect 1 started off extremely strong. It was the first game I had played in a long time that really sucked me in. I'd be thinking about it while in class, just waiting to get back home to re-enter the world. It did have some problems though. The Mako had horrendous controls, the inventory system was bad.

ME 2 rolls around and they have a chance to fix that stuff. But for some reason they completely remove the mako instead of fixing the controls and replace it with a boring as hell scan system. Instead of fixing the inventory they remove it and pretty much remove the gear aspect of RPG's, which is my favorite part.

So ME3 they have a chance to do everything right. Instead it's pretty obvious that the game is rushed out. Mass Effect is such an important series to the entire video game culture, and they rushed it out. It deserved so much better. Just from the outside looking in I can see areas where they cobbled together pieces from the previous two games to make some half-hearted attempt at a new system. The way space travel and reaper encounters work, the way side quests are picked up, the way the ending is handled. They invested in multiplayer when they should have invested in the single player.

Is it still a great, fun game? I'm sure it is. It looks good, I'm excited to play it.

But it won't be remembered as the greatest game of this generation, and the tragedy is that it could have been.

Probably its own thread.. but I'm curious as to what you think is the greatest game of this generation?