Nintendo at E3 2011 - Page 7

Vampyr · 06-17-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Yeah, this is how its always worked to be honest. There are still games that run and look better on the 360, and really most developers don't care/take the time to optimize it.

Also 50% is such an odd figure in general, since it doesn't tell us anything on its own.

50% more RAM, 50% faster clock speed, a lot of different aspects go into the console.

And then you have to figure that part of its power will be eaten on rendering stuff on the controller.

or in some cases rendering something completely different.

I actually don't mind some visual degradation to support having stuff on the controller. The thing that always annoyed me about the Wii's crappy graphics was that there was no reason for them. It's not like having bad graphics made the motion controls any better.

thatmariolover · 06-17-2011, 09:32 AM

EB Games might be getting a little ahead of themselves. They're already listing Mario and Zelda:
http://www.ebgames.com.au/wiiu

If it gets pulled:
http://i.imgur.com/Igue4.jpg

BreakABone · 06-17-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

EB Games might be getting a little ahead of themselves. They're already listing Mario and Zelda:
http://www.ebgames.com.au/wiiu

If it gets pulled:
http://i.imgur.com/Igue4.jpg

I don't think its a LONG shot to assume Nintendo will release a Mario and Zelda game sometime during the course of the Wii U's life.

thatmariolover · 06-17-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

I don't think its a LONG shot to assume Nintendo will release a Mario and Zelda game sometime during the course of the Wii U's life.

No, but they're claiming 'Available 2012'.

I really hope there's one or the other at launch, though. I know I probably won't buy one until either Mario or Zelda is available.

magus113 · 06-17-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

No, but they're claiming 'Available 2012'.

I really hope there's one or the other at launch, though. I know I probably won't buy one until either Mario or Zelda is available.

If they were smart they'd get on something for Zelda in the very very near future. I'm pretty positive Skyward Sword is probably very close to going gold soon enough. As soon as it does they need to start getting their shit together. Tech demos ain't gonna cut it for a while, dig?

BreakABone · 06-17-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by magus113

If they were smart they'd get on something for Zelda in the very very near future. I'm pretty positive Skyward Sword is probably very close to going gold soon enough. As soon as it does they need to start getting their shit together. Tech demos ain't gonna cut it for a while, dig?

I am actually a little torn about this.

People often times criticize Nintendo for relying on their tried and true franchises, while I have my opinions about that, I think now would be a wise time to try something new.

Instead of dropping Mario, Zelda and Metroid early on in the console. They should use them as tentpole games, you know maybe one a year, and just have the rest of the year revolve around B-Tier franchises and new games and 3rd parties. This wya you still get your sales boost while trying to expand your brand.

magus113 · 06-17-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

I am actually a little torn about this.

People often times criticize Nintendo for relying on their tried and true franchises, while I have my opinions about that, I think now would be a wise time to try something new.

Instead of dropping Mario, Zelda and Metroid early on in the console. They should use them as tentpole games, you know maybe one a year, and just have the rest of the year revolve around B-Tier franchises and new games and 3rd parties. This wya you still get your sales boost while trying to expand your brand.

Well I would imagine it'd take them two years thereabouts to be able to fire another one out, but it'd be nice to know they have something planned.

BreakABone · 06-18-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by magus113

Well I would imagine it'd take them two years thereabouts to be able to fire another one out, but it'd be nice to know they have something planned.

Two years is a bit generous no?

I mean Skyward Sword is 5 years after TP

TP was 3 1/2 years after Wind Waker

Which was like 2 1/2 years after Majora's Mask

magus113 · 06-18-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Two years is a bit generous no?

I mean Skyward Sword is 5 years after TP

TP was 3 1/2 years after Wind Waker

Which was like 2 1/2 years after Majora's Mask

Wow. Time flies. I had no idea it took that long.

Angrist · 06-18-2011, 05:54 PM

It's a bit disturbing to see how Zelda games seem to take more time with every new game.

I blame the handhelds.

Blix · 06-18-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

It's a bit disturbing to see how Zelda games seem to take more time with every new game.

I blame the handhelds.

I think it's because they want to make them unique (and they've been successful so far). The closest games have been OOT and MM and even then, when you play the game, the are very different. But it's also nice that they're not released every year. that would over expose the series and get some people tired.

Ginkasa · 06-19-2011, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

It's a bit disturbing to see how Zelda games seem to take more time with every new game.

I blame the handhelds.

Since you blame the handhelds I'll assume they don't count.

Original Japanese release years:

LoZ: 1986

AoL: 1987 (1 year)

ALttP: 1991 (4 years)

OoT: 1998 (7 years)

MM: 2000 (2 years)

TWW: 2002 (2 years)

TP: 2006 (4 years)

SS: 2011 (5 years)

So, sure, the wait for SS has been the longest since OoT, but its hardly the longest wait in the series. If you go ahead and include the handhelds (which, really, are typically just as full content wise as the console releases minus the graphical power) than Zelda has never been more prevalent.

Angrist · 06-19-2011, 08:52 AM

I didn't really count the handhelds because I never enjoy them as intensely as the console games. I have still to finish PH and start ST..

In the past Nintendo has used external teams to create the handheld games (Oracles of S/A, The Minish Cap), but now they use mostly the same team as for the consoles. I think that's why they're taking more time for their games than 10 years ago.

magus113 · 06-19-2011, 10:55 PM

SPEAKING OF HANDHELDS

Ocarina of Time 3D is fantastic. I'm already Adult Link and I got this game at noon today when GameStop opened. I haven't been playing all day either.

Seriously, it's beautiful and the 3D is well done, and the controls are great, and it's just...OoT. Fantastic purchase.

Vampyr · 06-20-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by magus113

SPEAKING OF HANDHELDS

Ocarina of Time 3D is fantastic. I'm already Adult Link and I got this game at noon today when GameStop opened. I haven't been playing all day either.

Seriously, it's beautiful and the 3D is well done, and the controls are great, and it's just...OoT. Fantastic purchase.

Yeah, it is really tempting me to purchase a 3DS. I'm going to hold out for the next model, though, and Ocarina will probably be the first game I pick up when I buy it.