Police Can Attach GPS to Cars Without Warrant

[Vampyr]

Typh, I think your posts are overly optimistic.

And no, I don't do anything illegal but I still don't want it to be legal for a cop to hide a GPS on my car.

If you want a gps on your car so that it can be found quickly if stolen, hide one yourself.

[Typhoid]

A) If you know it's there, it's not hiding. Different story if they randomly choose you out of a jar of pickled eggs with millions of names of Americans on it.
B) Where was the massive uprising when people found out they can track your phone? You always have your phone on you. You're not always with your car. It would make [at least] a little more sense that if you're going to get upset over something like this, you get upset at the thing you have on you all the time.

Other than "I personally don't like the idea of being tracked", give me 5 reasons why it's actually wrong, if you're a law-abiding citizen [Not a good movie, by the way] who goes to church every Sunday and never does anything illegal.

Why should John Q Catholic give a shit if the government knows where he is. They won't be looking for him unless he gives them a reason to.

It's not as if they're breaking into your car to search the contents, breaking into your house, or listening in on your calls. They know these three things [house, phone, car] belong to you. They know where your house is. Why should they not be able to know where your car or phone is.

Like I said, tinfoil hats. All or nothing.
If you're afraid of the fact they can figure out where your car is if they need to, you should be equally as scared that the government knows where you live, work, and how much you make. You should be afraid they know how many children you have, when you were born, and what type of car you have. Hell, even where your children even go to school.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

A) If you know it's there, it's not hiding. Different story if they randomly choose you out of a jar of pickled eggs with millions of names of Americans on it.

What is this response to, me saying you should put a GPS tracker on your own car? If -you- hide it then it -is- hidden, unless you steal your own car.

B) Where was the massive uprising when people found out they can track your phone? You always have your phone on you. You're not always with your car. It would make [at least] a little more sense that if you're going to get upset over something like this, you get upset at the thing you have on you all the time.

Like prof said, you need a warrant for that. The issue here isn't that they have the ability to put a gps on your car, it's that they can do it without a warrant. Should police be able to search someone's home if they have evidence he/she may be a thief, child molester, murderer, etc? Yes. Should they be able to if they don't have any evidence? No. Why? Because I don't like the idea of someone having access to my house any time they wan't, whether I'm doing something illegal or not, and that's the only reason that actually matters. I don't need 5 other ones. I've never heard of laws or policy being put into place because someone couldn't write down five whole reasons...I mean what if they only had four?

It's not as if they're breaking into your car to search the contents, breaking into your house, or listening in on your calls. They know these three things [house, phone, car] belong to you. They know where your house is. Why should they not be able to know where your car or phone is.

They -can't- just do any of those things you listed. Have to have a warrant.

Like I said, tinfoil hats. All or nothing.
If you're afraid of the fact they can figure out where your car is if they need to, you should be equally as scared that the government knows where you live, work, and how much you make. You should be afraid they know how many children you have, when you were born, and what type of car you have. Hell, even where your children even go to school.

Obviously all of these things are not equal to another. There's a line that's crossed when you go between knowing I make 60k a year and knowing that I go to starbucks every day at 2:30 and spend $3 on a coffee before driving five minutes back to where I work.