What do you guys think about the WII Controller choice?

[v1zzy]

ok, so I was doing some cleaning around the house, and saw my wii just sitting there rotting away slowly. I realized it's not because the games were bad or anything that I don't play the wii anymore. I think the reason I quit playing was the controller...don't get me wrong I think it was "innovative" for the first few months of wii sports. I think gamers these days are more drawn into laziness/timekilling (mmorpg, madden, halo, anything that involves sitting down relaxing/talking to their friends online at the same time).

As one of these "gamers" I find that although at first I found the wii entertaining, I get lazy and rather than picking up the wiimote, I pick up the ps3 controller. I understand nintendo is trying to reach out to these gamers by making controllers like the wii classic controller pro. But then it gets flawed when you have to find your wiimote everytime to plug it in to use it.

Wouldn't it be nice if nintendo just made a stand alone wireless wii classic controller pro or something? Maybe give each player the choice to either use that or the wiimote for any game? There are a lot of games I'd love to play on the wii without having to use or associate the wiimote in anyway.

Like hey I want to play some classic retro games, let me grab my wii classic controller, oh wait I'm missing something, totally forgot about the wiimote.

Or Nintendo can always give the option of wireless or wired classic controller just like the gamecube controller slots....maybe USB Powered perhaps?

Anyways that's just a suggestion I'd give out to Nintendo if they ever asked me what would improve my gaming interest on the nintendo wii.

Let me know what you guys think of this "player's choice" thing for nintendo.

[Fox 6]

Still seems like a gimmick to me.

[v1zzy]

well If I were nintendo which I'm not, I would have easily made the wii classic pro controller standalone. I mean they added side grips, and made it look somewhat of dual shock clone, but they couldn't just made it a standalone or at least usb wireless/wired powered? It's still a wii classic controller, same price, same everything, with a touch of grips and some other functions

[soccerant]

Naturally, there are many games that are better suited to the 360/PS3 controller (full camera control is why many prefer the GCN version of Twilight Princess), but in games like Galaxy, I'm willing to give up that camera control because the starbit collecting is an enjoyable enough sacrifice.

For longer sessions, I'll still sit down and play a game that uses little to no motion. But for the crowd Nintendo was trying to expand to, the motion in games like Boom Blox and Wii Sports Resort can't be emulated by a standard control pad.

I love the pointer functionality of the remote for those longer play sessions, but still miss the second analog stick. And yeah, I'm a big fan of the Classic Controller Pro, but v1zzy hit the nail on the head with the controller's needless attachment to the Wii Remote. Yeah, yeah, we get it; it doesn't need batteries, but I'd be willing to put batteries in it to keep the remote out of my lap.

[BreakABone]

This is a bit of an iffy question.

From a business standpoint, having the classic control be a viable option would not have helped the system early on or even in the long run. As games like Smash Bros prove, when given a choice between a controller and Wii-mote, most would choose the controller because they know how it works.

On the same hand, there are games that wouldn't have worked as well with a classic controller.

Now as for the rest, I don't own a classic controller, any game that uses it or something like it, I use the Cube controller for so I don't need the hassle of finding a wii-mote or something. So won't comment on that.

So I guess in short, Wii-mote as standard= good. Not having classic controller as a viable option= good from a business point of view.

[gekko]

The controller is one of the main reasons I don't play my Wii, along with online gaming, and having technology sub-par to the original Xbox.

I think there's a reason "gamepads" are the default controller for game systems. They work for the largest percentage of titles out there. Light guns, fishing rods, steering wheels, dance pads, musical instruments, and giant mech cockpits work great in a very small and highly specialized set of games. Motion controls also work really well, for a very small set of games. But I've come to understand that I'm not Nintendo's target audience.

I also don't like that there's no wired Wii remote. Wired controllers make development so much nicer.

[Dyne]

Originally Posted by gekko

I also don't like that there's no wired Wii remote. Wired controllers make development so much nicer.

Different strokes for different folks. I hate the wired 360's controller. Wire everywhere. Bleh.

My dualshock 3 is constantly de-wired. If it wasn't, I would be going crosseyed from looking at my TV so closely.

I can see how the Wii batteries would become a pain. But the cord would have to be longer than PS3's and way shorter than 360's.

[v1zzy]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

This is a bit of an iffy question.

Now as for the rest, I don't own a classic controller, any game that uses it or something like it, I use the Cube controller for so I don't need the hassle of finding a wii-mote or something. So won't comment on that.

So I guess in short, Wii-mote as standard= good. Not having classic controller as a viable option= good from a business point of view.

Yup that's why I think Nintendo should have released something different for the classic pro. I mean if people can use their gamecube controllers which are probably a lot cheaper now, then bringing something fresh for the wii could probably attract more people.

Oh and about what Dyne said, I think that the wiimotes could really improve if they manage to make their controller battery-less. "Think PS3 controllers" very light, great battery life, and you can charge it anywhere with a usb plug like a computer. Also if you ever where in the middle of the game and your "wireless wii-mote" went dead, you'd be able to plug it in and play. I agree the cables should be not too long or not too short, perfect distance. Think "USB Wired Gaming Mouse"

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by gekko

I think there's a reason "gamepads" are the default controller for game systems. They work for the largest percentage of titles out there. Light guns, fishing rods, steering wheels, dance pads, musical instruments, and giant mech cockpits work great in a very small and highly specialized set of games. Motion controls also work really well, for a very small set of games. But I've come to understand that I'm not Nintendo's target audience.

This is an odd point.
If we accept gamepads as the end all/be all of console gaming, we may never find the next best thing.

I'm not saying it is motion controls, I'm not saying controllers aren't needed, but I don't necessarily feel that there isn't something better out there.

And the only way to be sure, is to find something that works better.

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Dyne

Different strokes for different folks. I hate the wired 360's controller. Wire everywhere. Bleh.

I didn't say I liked wired controllers, I said I don't like Wii not having one. I generally prefer playing games in my living room with a wireless controller, and definitely think they should be the default offering. What bothers me is when companies do not offer the wired version in any form. I don't care if I need to go through a mail order catalog to get one, there are times when wireless doesn't cut it.

The reason it's on my mind is because syncing a wii remote with the dev kit is a painful process and could be avoided with a wired controller. I also shouldn't need to worry about battery life when I sit within arms reach from the box, which runs non-stop while working. It just makes working so much easier.

It's not the only place where wireless fails. I've seen several cases at PAX where having hundreds of wireless devices causes problems. Once again, we're right next to the machine, why are we not using wired devices? Also, anyone who plays games competitively would not want to risk wireless screwing up during a tournament. I'm sure I could come up with other reasons.

As I said, I like wireless devices, but there's a few scenarios where I prefer wired. My problem with Wii is I can't get a wired remote. So since we were expressing our dislike for the Wii remote, I figured I'd bring up the lack of a wired version.

[Angrist]

I like the Wiimote. It's wireless, I (usually) don't have to hold my hands together or in a specific way.

I've been playing MH3 with the Classic Controller Pro. It feels good, I don't mind having the Wiimote lying beside me on the couch.