"Support for Healthcare Plan Falls to All Time Low"

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Szymon

What's your position on the current system and the proposed plan?

LOL! Is this a real question?

In case it is, I apologize but I've been a vocal dissenter here for quite a while. Please read this thread if you desire a more thorough explanation of my stance on the subject. Just ignore my and The Game's quibbling over semantics:

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...ghlight=public

In any case, I'd like the discussion, if any, to concentrate on the news item quoted above and not delve back into an argument on the merits (we've done that to death). Just the public opinion, please.

[Fox 6]

Originally Posted by Professor S

LOL! Is this a real question?

In case it is, I apologize but I've been a vocal dissenter here for quite a while. Please read this thread if you desire a more thorough explanation of my stance on the subject. Just ignore my and The Game's quibbling over semantics:

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...ghlight=public

In any case, I'd like the discussion, if any, to concentrate on the news item quoted above and not delve back into an argument on the merits (we've done that to death). Just the public opinion, please.

Szymon hasnt really been around here for a while, so try not to make a scene there prof.

Also, would you say that the current plan does need to change, be it anything (as long as its better)?

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Fox 6

Szymon hasnt really been around here for a while, so try not to make a scene there prof.

My apology was sincere. I wasn't sure if he was pulling my leg knowing the epic threads surrounding this topic. I meant no offense and I'm sorry if any was taken.

Also, would you say that the current plan does need to change, be it anything (as long as its better)?

The current plan doesn't need to change, it needs to be blown up and then have them try again. The current plan is such an ungodly mess of half-hearted compromises and brazen vote purchases/ear marks that it has been tainted to the point of being a legislative plague if passed. I'd prefer a purely socialist endeavor over this hot mess of a plan. If it actually passes in it's current form, or God forbid is tainted further, it will be a vote that costs legislators their jobs.

As for my point of view, I am generally a fan of John McCain's proposed healthcare reforms.

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Professor S

As for my point of view, I am generally a fan of John McCain's proposed healthcare reforms.

I thought you said "John McClain" for a second, which would be way cooler.

[Professor S]

Washington (CNN) -- Independent Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday he would join a Republican filibuster to block the final vote on any health care bill that has a government-run public health insurance option.

Lieberman's vote is crucial to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's hopes of passing a health care bill that includes the controversial public option. Reid announced Monday he would send to the full Senate a health care bill that has a public option but also allows states to opt out of that provision.

Lieberman said he would support a vote to launch debate on the health care bill but would oppose a motion to end debate if the public option remains in the legislation. Democrats would need 60 votes in the 100-member Senate to close debate on the bill, and the Democratic caucus has 60 members, including Lieberman.

"I can't see a way in which I can vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated and run insurance company," the Connecticut senator said. "It's just asking for trouble."

Also Tuesday, two other conservative-leaning Democratic senators, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, said they would decide how to vote once they see the final bill.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/...are/index.html

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Fox 6

Szymon hasnt really been around here for a while, so try not to make a scene there prof.

Speaking of this, welcome back Szymon! Where have you been?

[Szymon]

Originally Posted by Bond

Speaking of this, welcome back Szymon! Where have you been?

Trundling through Internet, slowly making my rounds and discovering what it has to offer and what I want from it and from life. I've discovered that I'm comfortable here.