"Support for Healthcare Plan Falls to All Time Low"
 

Source: www.rasmussenreports.com

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What's your position on the current system and the proposed plan?

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LOL! Is this a real question?

In case it is, I apologize but I've been a vocal dissenter here for quite a while. Please read this thread if you desire a more thorough explanation of my stance on the subject. Just ignore my and The Game's quibbling over semantics:

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...ghlight=public

In any case, I'd like the discussion, if any, to concentrate on the news item quoted above and not delve back into an argument on the merits (we've done that to death). Just the public opinion, please.

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Szymon hasnt really been around here for a while, so try not to make a scene there prof.

Also, would you say that the current plan does need to change, be it anything (as long as its better)?

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My apology was sincere. I wasn't sure if he was pulling my leg knowing the epic threads surrounding this topic. I meant no offense and I'm sorry if any was taken.

The current plan doesn't need to change, it needs to be blown up and then have them try again. The current plan is such an ungodly mess of half-hearted compromises and brazen vote purchases/ear marks that it has been tainted to the point of being a legislative plague if passed. I'd prefer a purely socialist endeavor over this hot mess of a plan. If it actually passes in it's current form, or God forbid is tainted further, it will be a vote that costs legislators their jobs.

As for my point of view, I am generally a fan of John McCain's proposed healthcare reforms.

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Speaking of this, welcome back Szymon! Where have you been?

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I've spent hours and hours reading all sorts of arguments, and some of them sounded really well thought out and completely feasible. Both the Democrats and Republicans are capable of producing fantastic results, assuming the opposing political faction and ideology were non-existent. As long as the people are this evenly divided, there will always be squabbling, sabotage, filibustering and political stalemate. From what I understand, bad regulatory decisions and seemingly boundless corruption have ruined your current health insurance. Can anyone explain to me why insurance companies cannot operate out of state? I only just heard of this today. I think regulations like these, that restrict the options for people to find better health insurance is a huge problem.

I believe a lightly regulated free market option is ideal, but getting to that stage is probably impossible. Moving from where you are now, going to a socialist system might not be that bad. In my experience, the system we have up here is pretty good, but like the Professor says, each system will be unique to their government. A few greedy senators could easily ruin any sort of socialistic health insurance programs just as well as they've ruined the current capitalistic program.

Ultimately it's my opinion that until you get a program that the entire nation can get behind and support that you'll continue to have poor health insurance due to concessions to an opposing political faction in order to get a bill through and because any sort of sabotage or filibustering done in an attempt to stop a bill will leave it warped.

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Trundling through Internet, slowly making my rounds and discovering what it has to offer and what I want from it and from life. I've discovered that I'm comfortable here.

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The reason why simply breaking this boundary isn't so simple, is because there are a lot of state laws that requlate health insurance companies as-is. So what will end up happening if this limitation is simply dropped, is that health insurance companies will go to states that have the most appealing laws to them (or even worse, go over seas), and sell packages that may be considered illegal by the other state's laws 'Across state lines'.

Its not illegal for a company, even now, to exist in more then one state. Its just illegal to sell a plan across state lines due to the different variations in laws from state to state.

There's no easy fix for this, that's for sure.

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Why not make these laws regulated federally?

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That would be ideal, but then we'd be back at seat #1 where people are complaining about the Fed taking power away from the states. I personally wouldn't mind this change, but don't hold your breath for it to be the politically popular move.

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I thought you said "John McClain" for a second, which would be way cooler.

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Not so much on the issue, but how the hell does Liberman still have a political career? The man can't seem to stand on one leg before hopping to the other foot.

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Actually, I'd say he's one of the most consistent politicians going today. His stance on issues remains largely the same as it's ever been. He was against Bill Clinton's public healthcare plan as well.

He hasn't moved to the right... the Dems have moved to the left.