Final Fantasy 13 Dated - Page 3

Jonbo298 · 02-18-2010, 11:12 PM

The part that bugs me, is that it seems that Square forgot to use AA on the 360...

Thespis721 · 02-19-2010, 09:37 AM

::cracks knuckles:: Okay. My friends who love Square games told me how much they are excited about this game coming out, but honestly, I have no excitement. I don't think Final Fantasy has been good in a LONG time. It's old hat and Square has beaten the franchise into the ground with their spin-offs. Not to mention I can't BEAT the games because I lose interest.

Here's my problem, and I realize this has to do with my completionist nature:

I start playing some of these RPGs, FF being notorious for it, and they toss in a whole bunch of extra stuff. Like hunts. And I want do all these hunts because I want to get my maximum experience in the content but then after a while I sit there and thing, "What the frak was I doing? What's going on in this story? Who's doing who in the what now?" And I lose interest in the story, thus losing interest in my driving force to play RPGs, because, like BaB said, it's not a skill oriented experience, ESPECIALLY jRPGs. And then I start thinking, "Well, why the heck, when the world or universe is on the line, am I frakkin' around doing errands for some old hag in a marketplace? I need to save the world!"

Thus, many RPGs, especially jRPGs, ESPECIALLY FF, don't inspire me anymore.

That, and all the characters look like fairies, the storylines are pretty identical, the bad guys are the same, and nothing will compare to FFXI and FFXII.

You've jumped the shark, Square. Make a new property and stick with it.

DarkMaster · 02-19-2010, 10:16 AM

So, you don't think "Final Fantasy has been good in a LONG time", and yet, "nothing will compare to FFXI and FFXII"?

TheGame · 02-19-2010, 12:27 PM

Maybe he's referring to ffvi and ffvii... otherwise that makes no sense.

Thespis721 · 02-19-2010, 01:12 PM

Yeah, sorry. I'm at work so I multitask sometimes. Like TheGame said, I meant VI and VII.

I wasn't a big fan of XI or XII. though XII was pretty for a PS2 game...

Thespis721 · 02-23-2010, 09:35 AM

I'm reading it. And loving it.

DarkMaster · 02-23-2010, 10:13 AM

Developers take a chance at ingenuity and change a leveling system by adding something like the sphere grid and people bitch because it strays too far from the standard formula.

Developers play it safe and decide not to change the standard formula, and people bitch because it's not different enough and does nothing new.

Here's the moral of the story: gamers fuckin bitch about everything.

It sure is easy to complain about things when you don't have the responsibility of redefining multi-million dollar franchises. I guess we can just be thankful that we are not game developers and don't have to put up with our own bullshit.

Thespis721 · 02-23-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Developers take a chance at ingenuity and change a leveling system by adding something like the sphere grid and people bitch because it strays too far from the standard formula.

Developers play it safe and decide not to change the standard formula, and people bitch because it's not different enough and does nothing new.

Here's the moral of the story: gamers fuckin bitch about everything.

It sure is easy to complain about things when you don't have the responsibility of redefining multi-million dollar franchises. I guess we can just be thankful that we are not game developers and don't have to put up with our own bullshit.

First off, you're right. In this internet laden world, you'll never be able to please everybody. There will always be someone on the internet bitching.

However, when I have a problem is when developers take parts that are working and replacing them with bad ideas that don't work out. But that's the risks you take when you try to change things up? I prefer for them to mix things up and take changes. However, I'd love it if they were given the room to fail, which they aren't, because they are multi-million dollar franchises.

When all is said and done, if you want something really innovative, you'll most likely have to go to a new IP then one that has been around since the days of NES.

TheGame · 02-23-2010, 01:26 PM

I agree with Thespis..

Though I do like that the multi million dollar franchises are still trying to be innovative. The thing that comes to mind to me is the MGS series. MGS 1-4 are all very high rated, but they're also very different from one another. But the difference is that MGS series took pretty much everything from the previous game, and added too it in an innovative way.

Final Fantasy tries to do that, but some people simply don't like it. But it doesn't stop the games from being highly rated and from selling millions. Some people want more nostalgia, but SE is trying to make a new innovative product that appeals to people who are new to the series, while not trying to "replace" that old game that older fans of the series have nostalgia for.

BreakABone · 02-25-2010, 09:03 PM

If you want to listen to what is essentially a 2 hour, pretty spoilerfree review/discussion on the game from RPG fans.

http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect..../ATB022510.mp3

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Jeremy Parish, Kat Bailey, Christian Nutt, and Chris Kohler debate the merits of the next Final Fantasy game in the most spoiler-free way possible -- but not before nearly coming to blows over the merits of Xenoblade.

(57.7 MB) - Length: 2:06:09

BreakABone · 03-05-2010, 01:45 PM

So reviews are starting to pour in for the game, and right now they are mixed.

I mean sure they are averaging 82% (which means they are still considered "good" by GT's standards :P) but you have reviews from perfect scores, to those in the 50s/70s range so it really is a mixed bag.

The two biggest complaints/points of discussion are of course the battle system and the structure of the game

http://www.metacritic.com/games/plat...finalfantasy13

Bond · 03-05-2010, 01:55 PM

I've been struggling as to if I should purchase FFXIII or Mass Effect 2 for spring break. I know both are going to be great games, but I think the fact that a little part of me has been dying ever since I played my last Final Fantasy game (IX), has pushed me to probably go with FFXIII.

Fox 6 · 03-05-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

I've been struggling as to if I should purchase FFXIII or Mass Effect 2 for spring break. I know both are going to be great games, but I think the fact that a little part of me has been dying ever since I played my last Final Fantasy game (IX), has pushed me to probably go with FFXIII.

Mass Effect 2 or I will disown you.

Typhoid · 03-05-2010, 03:51 PM

Mass Effect 2.
Hands down.
I (backhandedly, through a friend, since I can't really play games right now) beat that game a couple days ago - and it fucked me in the face. In a good way.
I was so immersed in the game by the end of it, I actually had a brain melting "What the fuck is going on, holy shit what is that, oh my god - what the fuck" moment.

BreakABone · 03-05-2010, 05:47 PM

Not to knock it, but how do you folks know FF 13 won't afford him equal joy since almost certain none of us here have played it yet.

Though yeah, would lean towards Mass Effect 2 as well. Shorter so probably easier to beat.

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