Official NFL Thread 2009-2010

[TheGame]

Signing Vick was purely a gamble. Though I don't think they really expected to ever have to rely on him for the team to win games.. But it looks like it may be the situation sometime down the line.

[KillerGremlin]

I don't think signing Vick was a gamble. We can debate if it was a poor decision, but I don't think it was a gamble. I don't think anyone expected Kolb to play as good as he is...if he keeps this up, well damn. And McNabb as good as he is (and I really like McNabb), he has sort of become a liability. I think Philly is considering their options for a future without McNabb. But I'm not from Philly so I don't know the inner workings of that organization. But yeah, signing Vick seemed like an effort to secure a possible Quarterback weapon in case said current Quarterback craps out.

The question is will Vick ever be as good as he was when he played for Atlanta?

On a more serious note, Pittsburgh needs to step things up...1-2 is almost as unacceptable as the Titans going 0-3.

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by Professor S

I think right now the Eagles have a mess on their hands in the QB position.

You have McNabb hurt but will be back soon.

Kolb is playing very well, especially for an unseasoned youngster.

Vick looks lackluster at best, but by collecting $5 million a year he's burning a hole in the bench.

Lets not forget Garcia, but at least he knows to keep out of the picture as much as possible. If Kolb tanked, the situation would be even worse.

So if McNabb comes back and plays poorly, what then? Honestly, signing Vick is a situation that has zero upside. It still blows my mind that it happened at all.

I agree and disagree. If anything the QB position just got way better now that we know Kolb can actually play. Here is the scenario I envision. McNabb steps back in to the starters role after the bye week. I still have confidence in him to finish up with a good year. However, if he falters, the Eagles can now trade him in the off season and get something decent for him while they stick with Kolb who they now have confidence in as the QB of the future.

Also, Vick is only getting $1.6 million this year with a team option for $5.2 million next year. Vick's potential is a bargain for this year. If he doesn't look like he is making progress, then the Eagles don't pick up the option and let him go. I would still rather the Eagles not signed Vick, but if he just makes 2 or 3 big plays in the entire year that lead to some TDs, then for the price tag it was probably worth it. Plus, a big reason he was signed was because of Andy Reid's troubled sons, but that's a whole other story.

[Bond]

Four days until Packers / Vikings showdown on MNF.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by Bond

Four days until Packers / Vikings showdown on MNF.

I like the new avatar, Bond.

[Bond]

Thank you!

[KillerGremlin]

I also masturbate to Bond's avatar.

I'm so conflicted...which team do I want to win? Which hick-douche do I want to root for? Rodgers? Favre?
If the Pack wins we have a 3-way tie in the NFC North with Green Bay over Chicago...if the Vikings win they lead the NFC North at 4-0. They also have Peterson and they look like the best team in the division. The Vikings are the biggest threat to Chicago, and Chicago has to play them twice.

I'll probably cheer for Green Bay but still be happy if they lose . This game is huge though. Biggest game of the year so far. I am SO pumped. I really am. I'm gonna make popcorn and drop all homework for Monday Night Football. The fate of the NFC North really hinges on this game.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I also masturbate to Bond's avatar.

I'm so conflicted...which team do I want to win? Which hick-douche do I want to root for? Rodgers? Favre?
If the Pack wins we have a 3-way tie in the NFC North with Green Bay over Chicago...if the Vikings win they lead the NFC North at 4-0. They also have Peterson and they look like the best team in the division. The Vikings are the biggest threat to Chicago, and Chicago has to play them twice.

I'll probably cheer for Green Bay but still be happy if they lose . This game is huge though. Biggest game of the year so far. I am SO pumped. I really am. I'm gonna make popcorn and drop all homework for Monday Night Football. The fate of the NFC North really hinges on this game.

I've noticed that you only focus on the NFC North. I doubt that the Packers vs. Vikings game will be the biggest game of year. Also, wouldn't the Bears vs. Vikings games be bigger for you since you're a Bears fan, and those will be tough games? I guess I understand that you focus on the NFC North over everything else, since your team is in that division, but what about the rest of the league?

The best teams in the NFL right now are the Giants, Saints, and Colts. The second tier would have to be the Vikings and the Broncos. The Broncos did get lucky against the Bengals, and they did a good job against the Cowboys, but the Browns and Raiders games were very easy, so I think we still have to see just how good they are once they play better teams.

As for my team, the Eagles, I hope that McNabb will be back next week. The next three weeks for them should be easy. Bucs, Raiders, and Redskins, so I'm hoping that they'll be 5-1 at that point. After that the schedule gets tough with games against the Giants, Cowboys, Chargers, and the Bears. I won't go any further than that, but I just hope that they can compete with the Giants this year.


Oh yeah, did anyone see that Chargers vs. Steelers game last night? When the Chargers started coming back, I was hoping for another Steelers loss, but it was too little too late. I was really prepared to post a youtube video of Schwarzenegger saying "GO CHARGERS GO".

[Bond]

That was a big win for the Patriots over the Ravens yesterday. Nice game to watch as well.

Tonight is Pack / Vikings. I'm nervous for the Packers, it could really go either way.

Prediction: Watch for Charles Woodson to intercept a few Favre passes.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by ZebraRampage

I've noticed that you only focus on the NFC North. I doubt that the Packers vs. Vikings game will be the biggest game of year. Also, wouldn't the Bears vs. Vikings games be bigger for you since you're a Bears fan, and those will be tough games? I guess I understand that you focus on the NFC North over everything else, since your team is in that division, but what about the rest of the league?

The only reason I focus on the NFC North so much is because it is the division my Bears are in . I don't want to steal discussion you guys could be making about your respective teams/divisions.

The Bears vs. Vikings games will be huge...but lemme explain why I'm psyched....
Not only is this game insanely important for deciding who the dominant force is in the NFC North, this game is pitting Favre against his old team. And Favre is wearing a Vikings uniform! On a Monday night too. Given all the Favre-hype we had to listen to this summer, this game has been in the making since late July or early August. I realize other big news in the NFL is Vick on the Eagles and the Cutler/Orton trade...but I think the Faver thing was hyped the most.

That said, will this remain the biggest game of the year? Obviously not. But don't hate me for getting sucked into the hype.

The best teams in the NFL right now are the Giants, Saints, and Colts. The second tier would have to be the Vikings and the Broncos. The Broncos did get lucky against the Bengals, and they did a good job against the Cowboys, but the Browns and Raiders games were very easy, so I think we still have to see just how good they are once they play better teams.

Eh, I don't think the Broncos are going to last. The Colts are already well on their way to success given the Titans craptacularness the past 4 games. I also think the Vikings and the Saints are both going to drop. The Vikings are too dependent on their run game. When they play a team that shuts the run down and Favre starts throwing INTs... And I'm not sure the Saints have the defense.

I'm liking the Ravens, Jets, Pats, Giants, 49ers and the Steelers.

Oh yeah, did anyone see that Chargers vs. Steelers game last night? When the Chargers started coming back, I was hoping for another Steelers loss, but it was too little too late. I was really prepared to post a youtube video of Schwarzenegger saying "GO CHARGERS GO".

I hate the Chargers so much. 'Nuff said.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Eh, I don't think the Broncos are going to last. The Colts are already well on their way to success given the Titans craptacularness the past 4 games. I also think the Vikings and the Saints are both going to drop. The Vikings are too dependent on their run game. When they play a team that shuts the run down and Favre starts throwing INTs... And I'm not sure the Saints have the defense.

I'm liking the Ravens, Jets, Pats, Giants, 49ers and the Steelers.

I agree with you on the Broncos, because I even mentioned how they haven't had a very difficult schedule yet. The Vikings could also drop off eventually, but I still think they'll make the playoffs. I think that the Saints will be a big contender for the NFC though, even if their defense isn't the best.

I guess that I only mentioned the undefeated teams up there. I do agree with you regarding the Ravens, Jets, and Patriots. The 49ers do look good in the NFC West and it looks like they're going to dominate that division. I just hope that the Eagles stick in there with the Giants. Maybe once McNabb is back we'll get things going again. As for the Steelers, yes they're good, but it does seem like they have been giving away the 4th quarter to their opponents. They lost the Bengals and the Bears that way, and they almost gave up a huge lead to the Chargers.


As of right now I think the contenders for each league are as follows:

AFC East:
Patriots and Jets

AFC North:
Ravens, and then the Bengals and Steelers are going to be tied for this second spot, but overall it seems like this division could be like the AFC East was last year.

AFC South:
Colts, and then maybe the Jaguars, but there probably won't be a wild card team from this division

AFC West:
Obviously this will be between the Broncos and the Chargers, and the Broncos have the advantage right now.


NFC East:
Giants and then the Eagles, and the Cowboys always pose a threat.

NFC North:
This one is tough, but it looks like the Vikings are leading it as of now, and the Packers and Bears are fighting for the second spot.

NFC South:
Saints and then the Falcons, who could probably get a wild card spot

NFC West:
49ers, and probably the Cardinals next considering that they did so well last year, but we've yet to see much from them this year.

Obviously I'm not picking the teams that are going to make the playoffs yet, but from the AFC it looks like the wild cards will be from the East and North, and from the NFC it also looks like the wild cards will be from the East and North, or maybe the South considering the Falcons, but who knows because it's way too early.

[magus113]

I had tickets to the fucking Jets/Dolphins game next week on Monday, and I just found out that my teacher put up a test that day. Dammit all! My classes are at night that day, and I was gonna skip but not on a test day!

[ZebraRampage]

That wasn't pass interference at the end of the 2nd quarter. The Packers should have had that interception, but I guess the offsides penalty allowed them to replay the down, so I guess it doesn't matter. It's been an interesting game so far.

[Bond]

This game makes me sick.

[Bond]