Does anyone else feel that the Wii has been a terrible disappointment?

[thatmariolover]

Alright, a different angle. The things about the Wii that disappoint me.

1) Terrible Online Implementation:

a) Different friend codes for every single game.

b) No proper voice chat until very recently.

c) No ability to patch ANYTHING (more on this later).

2) Storage (or lack thereof).

a) 512 MB of flash memory, 177 MB of which are taken up by system software to date (more on this later). That's 35% of your storage stolen up before you even boot on your console for the first time.

b) Nintendo is scared of what you would do with a hard drive, so they won't let you use one. But even if they did release one (or let us use our own), you wouldn't be able to use it to load or save on games released before the HDD was sold (see the issues with the Wii OS).

3) Software (Operating System):

a) To date, there's already 23 different versions of IOS installed. Any time Nintendo wants to add a feature, they have to release a new version of IOS, but it also contains all of the data of the previous IOS. This is because anytime a game is launched, it accesses the appropriate version of IOS it was intended to be run with (partially an ass-backwards security measure). This includes any updates to the WiiConnect24 downloads code, and even some minor things like the “slot LED blinks when you eject a disc” feature - try it when you’re playing Zelda and you’ll see that it doesn’t work, because it’s using the very old IOS9. As I mentioned earlier, Nintendo's already whittled down 177 MB of the system's 512 MB flash memory with this crappy system.

b) Many of the drivers that Nintendo might want to update later, can't be updated. Why? Because they're not loaded from the OS, they're loaded from the disc of the game you're playing. Specifically, SD card drivers and the Bluetooth drivers. So, no VOIP for you on older games. There's no way to add it after the game's been shipped. So while Microsoft and Sony can continue bugfixing and adding new features or even expansions to their games, the Wii is going to be the exact same as it has been pretty much since day one. The only thing they can really update is the menu. After you've launched a game, there's nothing it can do.

4) Software (Games):
I already gave my opinions on this. We will agree to disagree, BaB.

5) Nintendo's attitude.

a) Nintendo never does anything wrong.

b) If they're making money, there's no need for improvement.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Alright, a different angle. The things about the Wii that disappoint me.

1) Terrible Online Implementation:

a) Different friend codes for every single game.

b) No proper voice chat until very recently.

c) No ability to patch ANYTHING (more on this later).

2) Storage (or lack thereof).

a) 512 MB of flash memory, 177 MB of which are taken up by system software to date (more on this later). That's 35% of your storage stolen up before you even boot on your console for the first time.

b) Nintendo is scared of what you would do with a hard drive, so they won't let you use one. But even if they did release one (or let us use our own), you wouldn't be able to use it to load or save on games released before the HDD was sold (see the issues with the Wii OS).

3) Software (Operating System):

a) To date, there's already 23 different versions of IOS installed. Any time Nintendo wants to add a feature, they have to release a new version of IOS, but it also contains all of the data of the previous IOS. This is because anytime a game is launched, it accesses the appropriate version of IOS it was intended to be run with (partially an ass-backwards security measure). This includes any updates to the WiiConnect24 downloads code, and even some minor things like the “slot LED blinks when you eject a disc” feature - try it when you’re playing Zelda and you’ll see that it doesn’t work, because it’s using the very old IOS9. As I mentioned earlier, Nintendo's already whittled down 177 MB of the system's 512 MB flash memory with this crappy system.

b) Many of the drivers that Nintendo might want to update later, can't be updated. Why? Because they're not loaded from the OS, they're loaded from the disc of the game you're playing. Specifically, SD card drivers and the Bluetooth drivers. So, no VOIP for you on older games. There's no way to add it after the game's been shipped. So while Microsoft and Sony can continue bugfixing and adding new features or even expansions to their games, the Wii is going to be the exact same as it has been pretty much since day one. The only thing they can really update is the menu. After you've launched a game, there's nothing it can do.

4) Software (Games):
I already gave my opinions on this. We will agree to disagree, BaB.

5) Nintendo's attitude.

a) Nintendo never does anything wrong.

b) If they're making money, there's no need for improvement.

Agreed.

I was about to post about some of this stuff as well, but no need.

I'm mostly just disappointed in nintendo. I'm sad faced.

I haven't turned on my Wii in a very long time.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Alright, a different angle. The things about the Wii that disappoint me.

1) Terrible Online Implementation:

a) Different friend codes for every single game.

b) No proper voice chat until very recently.

c) No ability to patch ANYTHING (more on this later).

2) Storage (or lack thereof).

a) 512 MB of flash memory, 177 MB of which are taken up by system software to date (more on this later). That's 35% of your storage stolen up before you even boot on your console for the first time.

b) Nintendo is scared of what you would do with a hard drive, so they won't let you use one. But even if they did release one (or let us use our own), you wouldn't be able to use it to load or save on games released before the HDD was sold (see the issues with the Wii OS).

3) Software (Operating System):

a) To date, there's already 23 different versions of IOS installed. Any time Nintendo wants to add a feature, they have to release a new version of IOS, but it also contains all of the data of the previous IOS. This is because anytime a game is launched, it accesses the appropriate version of IOS it was intended to be run with (partially an ass-backwards security measure). This includes any updates to the WiiConnect24 downloads code, and even some minor things like the “slot LED blinks when you eject a disc” feature - try it when you’re playing Zelda and you’ll see that it doesn’t work, because it’s using the very old IOS9. As I mentioned earlier, Nintendo's already whittled down 177 MB of the system's 512 MB flash memory with this crappy system.

b) Many of the drivers that Nintendo might want to update later, can't be updated. Why? Because they're not loaded from the OS, they're loaded from the disc of the game you're playing. Specifically, SD card drivers and the Bluetooth drivers. So, no VOIP for you on older games. There's no way to add it after the game's been shipped. So while Microsoft and Sony can continue bugfixing and adding new features or even expansions to their games, the Wii is going to be the exact same as it has been pretty much since day one. The only thing they can really update is the menu. After you've launched a game, there's nothing it can do.

4) Software (Games):
I already gave my opinions on this. We will agree to disagree, BaB.

5) Nintendo's attitude.

a) Nintendo never does anything wrong.

b) If they're making money, there's no need for improvement.

Most of these are technical arguements which honestly I don't disagree with, on the same hand doesn't really hinder my experience.

Is it a pain in the ass to have seperate friend codes for every game? you bet your ass, but I take it over no online games from them.

Only point I will disagree with and we went over this on AIM, is Nintendo making money need no improvement. I don't agree with it.. you don't agree with it... but at the end of the day... that's what business is about making money. They have an audience who appreciates what they are doing. It's a pain in the ass to sit on the sidelines at times.

I felt the Wii's library lacked any oomph for serious gamers post-Kart until the start of this year, but there were games coming out. Just nothing most average posters would be interested in.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Is it a pain in the ass to have seperate friend codes for every game? you bet your ass, but I take it over no online games from them.

You are a dedicated Nintendo fan .

Originally Posted by capablemachine

I have a Wii and the library is pretty dismal, that being said the libraries on the PS3 and 360 aren't much better.

I, like Bube, also agree. I think this generation of gaming has been fairly lackluster compared to past generations. Lots of sequels, lots of First Person Shooters.

BaB disagrees with me, but I think part of it has to do with the fact that now that we are 3D, where do we go?