Why Voting for Obama is a Mistake

[Vampyr]

I also liked how at the beginning of this race, Republicans were worried by the quesiton, "Is McCain conservative enough?" And he reassured them that he was, and he has slowly become more "conservative" sounding throughout the entire race, to appeal to the extreme type of voting that Bond indicated, and to win the votes of more Republicans.

Bond also stated that Bush wasn't truly conservative, due to his spending, and that he was a "neo-conservative". The ideas of being liberal and conservative are in the eye of the beholder. There is no such thing as "true conservative" and "new conservative". New conservative, by relativity, has become the true conservative. Elections are won and lost on moral grounds concerning abortion, homosexuality, and religion. The connotations of being conservative or liberal no long directly relate to finance, they relate to moral issues, which is what this debate will be either won or lost on. We would like to think it would be for other reasons, but it won't.

But there are enough important issues and topics that I agree with Obama on to keep me voting for him and not voting for McCain. I've read your criticisms of his arrogance and his youth and his inexperience. To this, I say I don't care. He brought about a revolution to a generation that had lost itself to apathy. This generation believes in him and his "pretty" speeches and his idea of change. If he fails to meet the standards they have set, they will be the first to burn him for it, because they're no longer apathetic, in part due to his own words.

Maybe the time has come for pretty speeches to be the winner of the day, maybe that is the change we need. I'm willing to take the chance.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

I also liked how at the beginning of this race, Republicans were worried by the quesiton, "Is McCain conservative enough?" And he reassured them that he was, and he has slowly become more "conservative" sounding throughout the entire race, to appeal to the extreme type of voting that Bond indicated, and to win the votes of more Republicans.

Yes, unfortunately, for both parties, the money resides in the extreme wings. For a candidate to raise enough money to be viable they must cater toward the radicals.

Originally Posted by Jason1

You people are rediculous. Replacing Bush with Mcain would, in effect, be like pooping on vomit.

But really its all irrelevant, because Obama will win in November and it wont be close. He will destroy Mcain. The people of this country have finally wised up (at least the ones who arent idiots)

I don't mean to be rude, but it's this kind of petty partisanship that is ruining our country. Our nation has become so polarized that we are losing sight of where we came from. The founding fathers feared the institution of parties for this very reason.

Our country is in shambles, we cannot continue this fantasy forever. Our monetary system is built on what economists call "fiat currency," meaning there is absolutely no backing to our money. We can't live this way forever, and sooner than later our out of control spending and trying to police the world will catch up to us.

[KillerGremlin]

I was going to say...

if people realized, for 5 minutes, that the media is working with the government to polarize our country....

i mean, what's the real BIG differences between Obama and McCain...one is old, one is young, one is going to "change" the nation, the other is going to continue to hold the ground that Bush is leaving off on.

At the end of the day, our nation will still have a huge deficit to pay off, we will still have troops in Iraq, and we will still be involved in tons of global affairs.

But people don't seem to care about all this, or they choose not to, because it is far more interesting to get sucked into the media polarization and choose a side.

I know all the Canadians here and the foreigners don't care that we Americans [me, my generation] are going to have a huge debt to pay off. That makes me sad.

I'm down for taking out the Taliban, but I don't know if I'm down for sending large numbers of troops to Afghanistan.

I don't think Obama is going to clean the floor, I think when debate time comes around, consevative America is going to get a wake up. It will be another close election.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I'm down for taking out the Taliban, but I don't know if I'm down for sending large numbers of troops to Afghanistan.

I don't think Obama is going to clean the floor, I think when debate time comes around, consevative America is going to get a wake up. It will be another close election.

People want to believe that Obama will run away with this because people are tired of Republicans and tired of how things are and do anything for a change, but there are a lot of conservatives in America, and all McCain has to do towards the end of the election is say "I'm Pro-Life, anti-Gay, and a Christian. Obama isn't. Vote for me!"

And if he wins the election, that will be how he does it. It's how Bush did it, it's how other Republicans do it, and it seems to be working pretty well for them so far.

If I knew nothing else about any of the candidates, I would not vote for the "conservative" simply for that reason.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

People want to believe that Obama will run away with this because people are tired of Republicans and tired of how things are and do anything for a change, but there are a lot of conservatives in America, and all McCain has to do towards the end of the election is say "I'm Pro-Life, anti-Gay, and a Christian. Obama isn't. Vote for me!"

And if he wins the election, that will be how he does it. It's how Bush did it, it's how other Republicans do it, and it seems to be working pretty well for them so far.

If I knew nothing else about any of the candidates, I would not vote for the "conservative" simply for that reason.

I think Bush won the election because John Kerry was a joke.
At least the second time.

Anyway, you are probably right. So...it is still going to be a close race towards election time.