Why Voting for Obama is a Mistake - Page 2

birdman · 07-26-2008, 02:57 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if a 3rd party could have a viable candidate?

GameMaster · 07-26-2008, 03:25 AM

Seeing this on his website was all that was necessary to earn my vote.

He's a true American

Fyacin · 07-27-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Seeing this on his website was all that was necessary to earn my vote.

He's a true American

Does that even mean anything?

Bond · 07-27-2008, 12:13 AM

About Bush: Like I said in my first post, September 11th changed Bush's presidency. If it wasn't for that event, he probably would have governed quite differently. The candidate he ran as and the candidate he governed as were quite different.

About The New Yorker: Well, it is The New Yorker. Interesting magazine, but a tad slanted.

Bond · 07-27-2008, 11:09 PM

This was going well for the majority of two pages, oh well.

I'll try again next week!

BlueFire · 07-28-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bond

This was going well for the majority of two pages, oh well.

I'll try again next week!

Please do! While I don't participate much, I really enjoy reading political debates.

Jason1 · 07-28-2008, 05:34 PM

Okay first off to Killergremlin: yes I do have a job and pay taxes. What does this have to do with anything? Do I like paying taxes? Not necissairly, but it must be done and I totally understand it. Taxes need to stay the same for the poor and middle class, and they need to rise dramatically for the extremely wealthy. Those that make over say 500,000 a year should be paying a much higher percentage than the rest of us. Now I realise they do pay a higher percentage, but it should be way higher than it is I dont feel like digging up the numbers. I struggle making 8 dollars an hour while my boss racks in the dough and makes record profits, and I get no raise. Its not fair, its crap and the Republicans will do nothing to change that. The minimum wage needs to be raised a lot higher than it is.

Also, you say that Obama isnt going to "change" the country...why the hell cant he? Bush changed the country a whole lot in 8 years, obviously for the worse. Who's to say Obama cant change it a whole lot for the better?

And as for ProfessorS, whos to say so called experience is necessary to be a good president? What necessairly "qualifies" someone to be president? In my opinion, nothing. You could serve your country for years in wars, in the government or whatever, and still be a shitty president. Just because Obama is comparativley young in comparision, they say he wont be a good president.

Also, Amen Vampyr. Lets end this war. Give peace a chance. Its totally a lost cause now, it was doomed from the very beginging. We only went to war in Iraq so Bush could finish what his father couldnt. That and Oil. Farienheit 911 anyone?

BlueFire · 07-28-2008, 05:40 PM

Oh dear.

Professor S · 07-28-2008, 06:36 PM

Jason, I honestly didn't know one person could fit that many cliches into so few words. Its almost as if you aren't even human, but a robot sent by MoveOn.org to repeat stale talking points.

Vampyr - We didn't go to war with Iraq until 2 years after 9/11. I think the Americans you talked to confused it with Afghanistan.

As for Bush lying after we realized Saddam either never had the weapons or moved them, I won't argue that and I think that was one of his biggest mistakes. He should have been honest about the situation.

As for pulling out now, well, that woiuld be the biggest mistake we could make. I know you don't believe it, but I think a democratic Iraq has a very good shot. The reason I believe this is because I've talked to several Iraq veterans, and they all were very proud of their service and many looked forward to going back. The reason they gave was because they believed in what they were doing and saw Iraq change and talked to the people there.

Pulling out would show the people we are trying to help that we truly don't care, show the people we're fighting we are weak and vulnerable and the sheer amount of death and geneocide that would follow would be staggering.

When we pulled out of Vietnam, 2.5 million Cambodians and Vietnamese were slaughtered (yes, AFTER we pulled out). We can't repeat the same mistakes.

Jason1 · 07-28-2008, 06:41 PM

You know what, im completley done with this garbage. ProfessorS can go make out with Rush Limbaugh's fat ass. The end.

Professor S · 07-28-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason1

You know what, im completley done with this garbage. ProfessorS can go make out with Rush Limbaugh's fat ass. The end.

Actually I can't stand Rush, but if it keeps you quiet while the adults have a conversation...

Bond · 07-28-2008, 07:07 PM

Okay, we were able to remain civil for 3 pages, but I think we're going down the shitter now.

I'm going to close this in anticipation of a new political thread in a few days.