June NPD: Snake Wins

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Bond

I wonder how much longer Nintendo will be classified as a videogame company. It's clear they've differentiated themselves out of the market in which Sony and Microsoft compete. Perhaps "Toys & Entertainment?"

Argh, I hate this line of thinking.
I think people are just trying to get this through so that it won't make the Ps3/360 performance seem as bad.

Especially the 360 which month after month is losing the ability to say it is the platform where 3rd party games sell.

Hell 4 of the games are for Wii and 6 are from Nintendo consoles.

It kills both competitors in console sales.

And two of the Wii games are actual games. And another is just a mini-game compilation.

There e3 showing was lukewarm at best, but I don't think we will be subjected to Wii whatever for the rest of this gen.

[DeathsHand]

You heard it here first, folks: 50% of the top-selling Wii titles are actual games.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Argh, I hate this line of thinking.
I think people are just trying to get this through so that it won't make the Ps3/360 performance seem as bad.

I think you only hate it because you aren't thinking of the videogame industry objectively as a business industry. Nintendo has clearly differentiated their product away from the market in which Sony and Microsoft are competing. If this was any other industry I'm sure it would be blatantly obvious.

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Bond

I think you only hate it because you aren't thinking of the videogame industry objectively as a business industry. Nintendo has clearly differentiated their product away from the market in which Sony and Microsoft are competing. If this was any other industry I'm sure it would be blatantly obvious.

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

I think the difference is hardly that drastic. Were people not playing casual games on Playstation and Playstation 2? Neither of which were the superior consoles (hardware-wise) of their time.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Bond

I think you only hate it because you aren't thinking of the videogame industry objectively as a business industry. Nintendo has clearly differentiated their product away from the market in which Sony and Microsoft are competing. If this was any other industry I'm sure it would be blatantly obvious.

I don't think that is 100% true.
The Wii is not too different from the PS3/360. Sure it is not as powerful but the core of the console is pretty much the same.
They differientated themselves by the method of control.
Is an ATM not an ATM anymore because it uses touch screen instead of a numeric pad?
And what is wrong with making yourself different?

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

Price isn't a problem with Nintendo. They have yet to change their price take it up with the other two. Even if that was the case (the 360 is now only 50 bucks more than the Wii for a decent SKU), I don't think the Ps3 or 360 would have sold any better. Maybe the Ps3, but the 360 has seemed to reached the saturation point of its market.

And again, Nintendo games sell to the same audience as any other game. And that's people who enjoy it.

I mean if you want to see the importance of casuals, did you notice that neither GTA IV SKUs are on this month. Two months and GTA is off the list? That really has to be a record for the series. And I think its because without the casual audience that enjoyed it on the Ps2 it has sold to the pretty set hardcore gamers. Which would also explain why there was no hardware bump with its release.

If the Wii isn't effecting that, I would love to see a better explanation.

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Bond

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

By your (flawed) logic, they both are not automobile companies. I think you're far too narrow-minded and can't accept that video games serve a much broader purpose than as demos for your home theater system.