Spider-Man 2 *spoilers*

BreakABone · 07-05-2004, 02:09 PM

Hmm let's see

Everyone seems to be more familar with the Venom origins from the cartoon, which is vastly different from that of the comics, and even Ultimate Spiderman.

I don't see the big deal with Venom/Carnage, anyhow. I mean I like them as villians, but even in the comics they didn't show up for some... 20-25 years after Spiderman was around.

Ginkasa · 07-05-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Hmm let's see

Everyone seems to be more familar with the Venom origins from the cartoon, which is vastly different from that of the comics, and even Ultimate Spiderman.

What are Venom's comic origins? I'd like to know...

*shrugs and walks away*

TheGame · 07-06-2004, 12:03 PM

I think Spiderman 2 was a good film, but I can't see any future Spiderman movie being as relevant to the main character's lives as the first two. I can see a bad sequal coming from a mile away...

They pretty much solved every unresolved problem that was in the first spiderman movie. He got the girl, he told almost everybody who needed to know the truth... what now? The first movie left so much story to build off of with so many people, but the second didn't leave barely anything. The next movie will pretty much have to be building up somthing from scratch...

BreakABone · 07-06-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

I think Spiderman 2 was a good film, but I can't see any future Spiderman movie being as relevant to the main character's lives as the first two. I can see a bad sequal coming from a mile away...

They pretty much solved every unresolved problem that was in the first spiderman movie. He got the girl, he told almost everybody who needed to know the truth... what now? The first movie left so much story to build off of with so many people, but the second didn't leave barely anything. The next movie will pretty much have to be building up somthing from scratch...

You are referring to a comic book series that has survived for almost 50 years.

There is a lot of ground to cover, how do you think MJ feels knowing her boyfriend is always putting his life in danger when he is late for dinner? How does Harry feel now that the man he thinks was responsible for his father's death is his best friend? How do you think he feels now that his dad turned out to be an insane murderer? Does Aunt May know yet? And do you not think John is pissed at Peter for stealing his future wife?

Do you think Peter's life will be all sweet now that most everyone knows and he got the girl? Heck, if anything it just opens up a whole new world of problems. I mean MJ always felt like a victim before imagine how she feels knowing she will always be a target as long as she is with Peter/Spider-man?

Harry was Peter's best friend (basically only friend) do you think he not knows how to hurt you the most? Do you think he won't use that to his advantage?

And what if a wrench is thrown in the way of Peter and MJ's love? Black Cat? Gwen Stacey? John Jameson again?

TheGame · 07-06-2004, 12:59 PM

Hmm... good points BAB. You are right, there is material to make a sequal off of, but how relevant is it? We are talking about moving from two stories that were basicaly centered around Peter Parker and his life, and his self discovery... Spiderman 2 adds in a random bad guy but continues to push the story of what creates spiderman and why he wants to fight.

Mr Parker solved every issue that was eating himself alive, he told the truth to his aunt about what happend to Ben, MJ now knows he is spiderman, and why he has not been able to have a relationship with her... and his friend knows he is spiderman, and WHY he killed his dad. What other issues needed to be solved for Spiderman personaly? Nothing... hollywood will have to create new problems, and pretty big ones if they want it to be as relevant as the first two movies.

GameMaster · 07-06-2004, 02:27 PM

In the comics, Gwen Stacy came before Mary-Jane as Peter's love. Then she was killed. And didn't Harry already know that his dad was the Green Goblin? I mean, he was there in his costume pinned against a wall by his glider with his mask off. Did the police lie to Harry about his father's death?

Ginkasa · 07-06-2004, 11:25 PM

Spider-Man delivered Norman's body to his house. The police never saw the scene at the end of the first movie.

Spider-Man also obviously took the Goblin suit off of Norman. He did say not to tell Harry. I think Pete probably respected him enough (whether or not he was the bad guy) to follow his last wish.

*shrugs and walks away*