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Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
Old 06-28-2004, 11:18 PM   #1
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Awesome movie, and the events do speak for themselves. Most of the objections are little nit-picky things like omitting the congressman who did have a couple nephews in the war. I haven't seen anything disputing the major points of the film. I'm still pissed off about the whole Florida scandal. Republican cronies purged several thousand black voters who vote 90% democratic because they "may" have committed a felony. Of course the majority of them never had. I hate that Katerine Harris bitch with a passion.
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Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
Old 06-29-2004, 12:02 AM   #2
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I'm not going to get into this. I've pointed out what a manipulator he is over and over again on how he is simply playing on your sympathies to feed his ego and his wallet with your masturbatory adulation and hard earned money. Even the mainstream media is tearing him apart for this one, much like George Stephanpolous and Matt Lauer both did.

Those that care to listen and do the research and see him for what he is, will listen, and those that want their ideals reinforced with misinformation and one sided "documentaries" will continue to love him. By the way, there is a book coming out soon written by David T Hardy, a reknowned Moore skeptic and debunker who I've cited more than once, and here is a link to where you can go to get it once it comes out later this month:

http://www.moorelies.com/book/

I will say this one thing: For those of you that claim that Michael Moore lets the events talk for themselves, so did Leni Reifenstahl. The validity of the comments made depends on what events you care to let speak and how they are presented.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:07 AM   #3
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he wants the attention from the media like he's getting with them taring him apart.
meanwhile the movie is getting WONDERFUL reviews( http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Fahrenheit911-1133649/ ) and is #1 at the boxoffice.


true or false, it is entertaining to watch.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:14 AM   #4
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thats right he is a manipulator, but at least he uses his manipulation powers for good, not for evil. He exposes the evils of corporate crime through manipulation, well no one really pays attention otherwise.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:18 AM   #5
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Well ****.

The film i got off of suprnova isn't working for me. I have no idea what codec I need and they didn't include a readme that tells me. GRRRRRRR


If someone else has it here than I'd appreciate the help. There's no way I could make it into Vancouver until the end of summer.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:19 AM   #6
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Well ****.

The film i got off of suprnova isn't working for me. I have no idea what codec I need and they didn't include a readme that tells me. GRRRRRRR


If someone else has it here than I'd appreciate the help. There's no way I could make it into Vancouver until the end of summer.

no sympathy, sorry.


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Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
Old 06-29-2004, 12:19 AM   #7
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thats right he is a manipulator, but at least he uses his manipulation powers for good, not for evil. He exposes the evils of corporate crime through manipulation, well no one really pays attention otherwise.
So if he exposes the "evils" in the world by lying about them to make them look evil, how do you know if they are really evil or just victims of a man that you admit is a master manipulator out for his own agenda and personal wealth?
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:29 AM   #8
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So if he exposes the "evils" in the world by lying about them to make them look evil, how do you know if they are really evil or just victims of a man that you admit is a master manipulator out for his own agenda and personal wealth?
since when does manipulation = lying? Politicians like to hide their wrong doings, sometimes you need to manipulate to reveal those faults, obviously you can't trust a manipulator 100% of the time, so check out his claims, see if he really did just take things out of context.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:52 AM   #9
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since when does manipulation = lying? Politicians like to hide their wrong doings, sometimes you need to manipulate to reveal those faults, obviously you can't trust a manipulator 100% of the time, so check out his claims, see if he really did just take things out of context.
I did and have posted those finding all over this site. He lies. Constantly. No one cares because his lies and manipulated media reinforce people's predisposed beliefs and as long as his movies continue to do so no one is going to care whether or not his claims are actually accurate.

Now look whats happened. I've been drug back into another Michael Moore debate where we all know that nothing is going to get accomplished. Later.
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