$500 PS3 a Possibility

Null · 06-22-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

No but i mean, why have a game system that can play games and record tv, and play DVD's, and not do the same to the other two? it kind of makes them obsolete dont you think?

Because if you buy the system that has all of them, you dont need to buy the other ones.

kinda talking in circles.

movies and tv are something most every gamer users.

games are not something most every movie watcher uses.

And for some consoles, that are already using a DVD drive for media, adding DVD playback is not costing much and just makes sence.
what the hell would be the point to use a DVD drive and take away its ability to play movies? xbox and PS2 did not go out of thier way to add DVD playback. it was there already basically.

tivo is another matter, it might have something to do witht he hard drive tho and its prolly more like tivo ability not really the tivo brand.

the ability to use tivo style things is cheap. i can download free ones and run em on my PC just like a Tivo would work.

As long as they're not going out of thier way and adding stuff just to add it and tack on money to the overall cost. who the hell really cares?

Jonbo298 · 06-22-2004, 06:34 PM

You have to figure this, to include tivo like functions, you have to include a hard drive. At least a 40 gig hard drive but most likely gonna have to be larger. Right now an 80 gig goes for about 60-75 depending on brand. That will probably go down in the next year but still, thats more money tacked on to include it. Along with everything else they want to cram in it along with what MS is doing, consoles aren't gonna be cheap at first UNLESS there is a lite version. Without it, people won't buy into it at first because price is probably gonna be an issue.

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

tarakan69 · 06-22-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

Too true...

Null · 06-22-2004, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

You have to figure this, to include tivo like functions, you have to include a hard drive. At least a 40 gig hard drive but most likely gonna have to be larger. Right now an 80 gig goes for about 60-75 depending on brand. That will probably go down in the next year but still, thats more money tacked on to include it. Along with everything else they want to cram in it along with what MS is doing, consoles aren't gonna be cheap at first UNLESS there is a lite version. Without it, people won't buy into it at first because price is probably gonna be an issue.

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

bigger the hard drive the better, i dont agree with adding tivo funtions (prolly cuz i already own one) but the hard drive thing is a bad example. a bigger hard drive would help even more with gaming.

Jonbo298 · 06-23-2004, 03:48 AM

I never said anything bad about a hard drive being bad for gaming. I was just expressing the cost it would increase on the console for a larger HD.

And if Nintendo did the same thing where they threw in 50 things, of which 49 I use SPARINGLY, then I would either wait for a lite version or wait for a few price drops since I don't want to blow my money on features I won't use much at all. I'm not trying to look fanboyish to Nintendo, but they are the only ones so far that hasn't said they want to throw in things to make their "All in one entertainment machines".

Null · 06-23-2004, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

I never said anything bad about a hard drive being bad for gaming. I was just expressing the cost it would increase on the console for a larger HD.

And if Nintendo did the same thing where they threw in 50 things, of which 49 I use SPARINGLY, then I would either wait for a lite version or wait for a few price drops since I don't want to blow my money on features I won't use much at all. I'm not trying to look fanboyish to Nintendo, but they are the only ones so far that hasn't said they want to throw in things to make their "All in one entertainment machines".

but thats saying that thoes extra features would cost a lot. much of the time thats not the case. sometimes they just throw it in cuz the console is able to do it. not because they want to make it do a bunch of extra things.

at launch, i garentee you the PS2 woulda costed the same as it did even without DVD playback.

Jonbo298 · 06-23-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

at launch, i garentee you the PS2 woulda costed the same as it did even without DVD playback.

Without DVD movie playback, the price wouldn't be much different anyways because the console can already read DVD's so the price wouldn't have been much different anyways.

TheGame · 06-23-2004, 03:20 PM

Ps2 would have costed Sony around $30-50 less (each) to make if it didn't have DVD playback.... there is a licencing fee which is much more friendly now then it ever was then. The licence was high enough to pursuade MS to make there gamers pay the extra fee themselves to watch DVDs on Xbox... good ol $30 remote.

But when you take into account the huge amounts of money Sony and Microsoft lost with the launch of the systems... adding DVD playback wasn't all that bad when compared to the expense of the rest of the hardware. When Sony first released Ps2 in Japan, DVD playback pretty much killed Sony's income because at the time it was the cheapest DVD player Japanese people could buy.

What's the point of my post? I dunno... Sony owned ass this generation with the new feature, and Nintendo continues their slide down hill without Online play and and extra features. How big of a factor was it? Who knows... What's the point of my post? That's for you to know and for me to find out.

Null · 06-23-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Without DVD movie playback, the price wouldn't be much different anyways because the console can already read DVD's so the price wouldn't have been much different anyways.

thats exactly my point! and what i've been saying in this topic a few times.

these features everyones saying "i dont want my game console to do this or that" are features that it can basically already do, adding them is not going out of thier way to add em at all.

depending on how the TIVO is done on it, if its kinda thier own version. its basically just a program running on the hard drive to do it. so it might not be outta thier way at all.