Bush Wasn't Lying...

[Professor S]

... about WMD.

A British intelligence review released July 14 calls Bush’s 16 words “well founded.”
A separate report by the US Senate Intelligence Committee said July 7 that the US also had similar information from “a number of intelligence reports,” a fact that was classified at the time Bush spoke.
Ironically, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who later called Bush’s 16 words a “lie”, supplied information that the Central Intelligence Agency took as confirmation that Iraq may indeed have been seeking uranium from Niger .
Both the US and British investigations make clear that some forged Italian documents, exposed as fakes soon after Bush spoke, were not the basis for the British intelligence Bush cited, or the CIA's conclusion that Iraq was trying to get uranium.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=222

[Joeiss]

So where are they?

[Typhoid]

But the question i want to know is why is America allowed to have WMD but nobody else?


Just a question.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

But the question i want to know is why is America allowed to have WMD but nobody else?


Just a question.

Biological Weapons:
Russia has them, United States studies some substances, North Korea and Syria are suspected to have them.

Chemical Weapons:
Russia and the United States have them, India, South Korea and Syria are suspected to have nerve agents. It has been reported that Al Qaeda has tried to make various chemical weapons (no suprise).

Nuclear Weapons:
Russia, United States and North Korea have them, Pakistan, India and Israel all may have nuclear weapons.

Radiological Weapons:
Nearly every country has the materials to make them.

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I suppose that answers your question.

You can also find more information here that lists countries that are pursuing or capable of acquiring weapons of mass destruction.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Bond

Biological Weapons:
Russia has them, United States studies some substances, North Korea and Syria are suspected to have them.

Chemical Weapons:
Russia and the United States have them, India, South Korea and Syria are suspected to have nerve agents. It has been reported that Al Qaeda has tried to make various chemical weapons (no suprise).

Nuclear Weapons:
Russia, United States and North Korea have them, Pakistan, India and Israel all may have nuclear weapons.

Radiological Weapons:
Nearly every country has the materials to make them.

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I suppose that answers your question.

You can also find more information here that lists countries that are pursuing or capable of acquiring weapons of mass destruction.

That actually doesnt answer my question.

Why is America allowed to have them?

I dont want a list of the kinds and who does have them. Why can America have them. Whats the point of having them? Scare tactics is all it is.

Yes, Lots of countries have them, but aside from Iraq, Iran etc. the U.S.A. is the most likely country to actually use them in a large scale account.

And if they arnt likely to use them, whats the point of even having them? Shelf decorations?

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

That actually doesnt answer my question.

I think it does answer your original question. You asked: "why is America allowed to have WMD but nobody else" I clearly pointed out America is not the only country with weapons of mass destruction. So when you said "but nobody else" you were wrong.

Whats the point of having them? Scare tactics is all it is.

Er... if you're going to answer your own questions then what is the point of asking them?

[Joeiss]

I would rather have USA have nukes than a country like Iraq.. Well, pre-occupation Iraq, lol.

USA would definitely not use it unless somebody else is dumb enough to launch one at them. And I am happy they have them, because anything on American soil will factor Canada too.. So if nobody messes with the States, nobody will mess with Canada.

[Ace195]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

That actually doesnt answer my question.

Why is America allowed to have them?

I dont want a list of the kinds and who does have them. Why can America have them. Whats the point of having them? Scare tactics is all it is.

Yes, Lots of countries have them, but aside from Iraq, Iran etc. the U.S.A. is the most likely country to actually use them in a large scale account.

And if they arnt likely to use them, whats the point of even having them? Shelf decorations?

Iraq doesn't actually count as anyone else you might be to young to remember when Saddam took over kuwait and used his WMD on his own people. When we stomped him the first time after he did that with his WMD he signed a no WMD peace accord and then he fell back on it after kicking UN inspector's out of IRAQ and it was just a matter of time that this was coming.. Americans don't care if France or Italy or any of the people in the UN have WMD but saddam might have sold them to terrorists but since we stopped it before it happened who knows...... And Joeiss I agree Canada is part of N.America and I know that if they were attacked the US would run to defend them with the Canadian troops, I know 44 people from the CAN. INF because they trained with us during HELO ops down at fort hood.. I'd be glad to serve with any of them.. ANd the majority of the ones I met supported the US's decision to invade Iraq so I guess not all Canuks are bad j/k

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Ace195

Iraq doesn't actually count as anyone else you might be to young to remember when Saddam took over kuwait and used his WMD on his own people. When we stomped him the first time after he did that with his WMD he signed a no WMD peace accord and then he fell back on it after kicking UN inspector's out of IRAQ and it was just a matter of time that this was coming.. Americans don't care if France or Italy or any of the people in the UN have WMD but saddam might have sold them to terrorists but since we stopped it before it happened who knows...... And Joeiss I agree Canada is part of N.America and I know that if they were attacked the US would run to defend them with the Canadian troops, I know 44 people from the CAN. INF because they trained with us during HELO ops down at fort hood.. I'd be glad to serve with any of them.. ANd the majority of the ones I met supported the US's decision to invade Iraq so I guess not all Canuks are bad j/k

That still didnt really answer why America can have them.

Yes, i understand Iraq and saddam used them, but thats not what i asked.

And i do remember the thing you talked about, im 17 you know.

And what, you do think canadians are bad?

You said i guess they arnt, then put a "j/k" so you do think we are all bad then?

EDIT: I even said aside from Iraq, and you posted a reply about how Saddam used them.

[Ace195]

If you notice Typhoid the only country that we stopped from having nuclear devices aside from terroist havens IE Iran ect. is Iraq.. We havent' stopped N. Korea or anything we've done peace talks and whatnot but we never said hey NO and then smacked their hand so I don't get what you mean otherwise if not Iraq we do have a treaty with the rest of the UN to get rid of WMD for the betterment of the world and if you check since the end of the cold war we have been doing just that getting rid of nuclear missles..

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

That still didnt really answer why America can have them.

You're the type of guy that likes a lacking police force, don't you?

"I just don't feel safe anymore, Jack... I mean, the police have guns, but they won't let us crooks have them. What makes those police officers think they're allowed to have them?"

It's all about intent, boy. That and the fact that the US made them first.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Rumpelstilzchen

You're the type of guy that likes a lacking police force, don't you?

Yes. Yes i do.

I like the fact people would be able to break into my house at any moment stealing everything i have.

Congatulations, your an idiot. j/k

Originally Posted by Rumpelstilzchen

"I just don't feel safe anymore, Jack... I mean, the police have guns, but they won't let us crooks have them. What makes those police officers think they're allowed to have them?"

So are you comparing America to the police force of the world then?

And when did i say that i want any country to have WMD? I dont want any country to have them, they are pointless IMO.

And Ace, i never said they stopped any other country, i never said Saddam never used WMD, i never said anything of the sort.

All your saying is saddam has(had) them, other countries have them. Well, true, yes they do. Good for you, you answered a question nobody asked.

But the fact remains, i havent really got a straight answer yet. And frankly, im surprised the Strangler hasnt shown up yet.

NHF though.

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Yes. Yes i do.

I like the fact people would be able to break into my house at any moment stealing everything i have.

Congatulations, your an idiot. j/k


So are you comparing America to the police force of the world then?

And when did i say that i want any country to have WMD? I dont want any country to have them, they are pointless IMO.

And Ace, i never said they stopped any other country, i never said Saddam never used WMD, i never said anything of the sort.

All your saying is saddam has(had) them, other countries have them. Well, true, yes they do. Good for you, you answered a question nobody asked.

But the fact remains, i havent really got a straight answer yet. And frankly, im surprised the Strangler hasnt shown up yet.

NHF though.

I don't get you kid... your arguement is based on countering an arguement by saying we're giving you too many facts? I thought we found enough holes in your ideas.

Arguing with you is like chiseling into diamond flooring!


You're so freakin hilarious! Listen to yourself, kid. Now, is your question really "Why is America the only nation allowed to have WMD?" or... "Why are my liberal friends telling me that conservatives feel that America is the nly nation allowed to have WMD?" You're skewing the facts, you're twisting the words, and you're not even American yourself. You're freakin me out, really. I'm scared of the world now. No, I change my mind, I'm scared of teenagers that think they're the world.

And you know what? In regards to the first part of your reply... I hope sarcasm bites off your ass one day, 'cuz that's the only way you're going to know about it.

And is America the policeforce of the world? Hell. Yes. So quit your whining and be happy of the service they're doing for you. You can add to our suggestion box, but don't bother us on the streets, if you know what I mean. We've got work to do. And we're not going to let people break into your house and steal anything.

One final note... you're afraid that if you didn't have a police force, people could "freely" go into your house and steal things? Well, according to the honest saint himself, Michael Moore, I was under the impression that Canadians have no fear of burglary and leave their doors unlocked. Don't go disproving your hero.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Rumpelstilzchen

I don't get you kid... your arguement is based on countering an arguement by saying we're giving you too many facts? I thought we found enough holes in your ideas.

Alright old man, listen up.


Yes, you gave me "facts" but thet were to things i wasnt asking. You gave me evidence of things that didnt need proving.

If i ask you why America can have WMD, your not supposed to beat around the bush and go into things about Saddam and Iraq.

Micheal Moore isnt my hero. And im not Eastern Canadian. People act different in different regions. ( New York to Alabama) My area has gangs, muders and shootings, i much need the police force. And i wasnt disprobving my hero, nobody except Dylflon ( maybe) knows my hero, and it certaintly isnt Micheal Moore.

*sigh*

Yay, another Republican..

And what "ideas" did i have? I never put one idea down. Ive been asking one question that IMO hasnt been answered yet. I have gotten alot of responses to things other than the specific question ive asked, but not to the question itself.

And Rumpel...youre new here, i do respect your opinion and stuff, but dont act like such a bigshot and knowitall. And on me behalf, im not either.

Let the tearing apart of my comments begin!!

[Ace195]

Let the tearing apart of my comments begin!!

Wow when someone knows they are wront they really know..


Umm typhoid I'm gonna lay this down plain and simple.. America can have WMD because we invented them.. Not we well one german guy Albert Something something.. (yes I know his last name einstien [just can't spell it]) Well not just one german guy.. And we never said noone else could the UN did that when they set the WMD treaty and said that they should all be gone by 20??.. And you telling rumpel to not be a knowitall sounds kinda childish. But hey to each his own...