Suicide

Revival · 02-24-2002, 08:22 PM

Ok, after talking with BreakABone on AIM.. I felt compelled to release my anger at people who think that committing suicide is a viable solution for anything.

Well, ever since I broke up with Kristen, she's been talking about killing herself. In fact, one of her quotes on AIM was "I'm going to go get hit by a car..." Now, you never know if someone that says this is serious, but it's no joking matter either. I, personally, don't know what to think of the people that think suicide is an option for troubles. I don't know whether to deem them as one of the stupidest people in world, or deem them mentally unstable. Now, I don't know why they can THINK about suicide.. it's just not something that I can even grasp. If they could just stop and think "who is this going to effect?" I think they would be a lot better off. When someone kills themselves, it doesn't just effect them, it effects everyone around them. If they could see that, I could only imagine that it would stop quite a few people. Now, just look at these startling facts:

Suicide is the 8th leading killer in the United States
1.3% of deaths are caused by suicide
Suicides outnumbered homicides by 3 to 1
There were more than twice as many deaths due to suicide than deaths due to HIV/AIDS

Now, this tells me something about our society today. What is wrong that we convey the message that suicide is a viable way out of anything -- suicide creates more problems that anything. Now, I know that not everyone things suicide is a solution, so that's some good news. I just think that suicide is one of the worst decisions.. and if you know someone that is saying something about it.. DO SOMETHING! Call the nation suicide prevention hotline (1-888-SUICIDE).

Ok, there's my venting for now.. I just had to rank about this, it had been bugging me for a while.

Perfect Stu · 02-24-2002, 08:32 PM

maybe I'll respect your opinion when you got a degree in psychology and had years and years experience with suicidal patients...or if you because horribly depressed and full of anxiety for a long, long, time...because I am, and let me tell you something: your brain gets poisoned. sometimes, you don't think rationally at all. and you can't control it.

now I'm not saying suicide is right, because it's not, but I know from experience that suicide IS a reality and people SERIOUSLY consider it because no life=no pain...and they just want the pain to go away. everyday I pray that the pain in my life goes away...

BreakABone · 02-24-2002, 08:33 PM

Well I really don't know what to say on this issue. I can't control what people do with their lives. If they see it fit that they can't control it and believe the only way out is death. It is their choice.

I don't know what to make of the situation with ex, but I doubt you are that big of a thing to kill yourself over. What can I say. I really don't want to stress the fact that suicide is bad because I don't know what type of troubles would lead someone to that type of decision.

Revival · 02-24-2002, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
now I'm not saying suicide is right, because it's not, but I know from experience that suicide IS a reality and people SERIOUSLY consider it because no life=no pain...and they just want the pain to go away. everyday I pray that the pain in my life goes away...

No life might equal no pain -- for that person. Think about what pain it might cause the other people.

Now Stu, I know that you've been depressed for a while, and believe me, you'll get over it soon enough, and you'll be the perfect Stu

One Winged Angel · 02-24-2002, 09:15 PM

I thought about suicide once. Everything was going wrong and I was depressed. It felt like all the choices I made were wrong and I was depressed. I was struggling so much that I was thinking reasons why I shouldn't kill myself. I'm better now and I was just going through a really rough time. I remembered I had people who loved me and cared for me. Dont commit suicide, there are people who love you... think of them more than yourself.

Joeiss · 02-24-2002, 09:26 PM

Suicide sucks. It effects people majorly, in a negative way. A close family friend of my family commited suicide 2 years ago (he was 17). And let me tell you, that was the worst week of my life. Everybody was so upset. It upset me that so many other teenagers were so sad. I mean, it confused everybody. This always had a smile on his face. That was until his girlfriend dumped him.

I just cannot imagine what was going through his head at the time that he commited suicide. I mean, how many people can actually take that jump of the chair?

I cannot say that I agree with suicide, but there are some positives that go along with it. It makes people aware of suicide. It shows that because of suicide, everybody hurts, and everybody knows after this happens, that is not the right way to leave this world, especially if it is something like breaking up with a boyfriend/girlfriend.

But, this is not always the case. The guy's best friend, a really close friend of mine (hell, he is like my idol) had an overdose on his antidepressant pills. I remember that next morning when his dad knocked on my door. I just knew that something was wrong. Luckily, he did not die.

As you can see, this is how people, especially best friends of the suicide victim, get messed up because of suicide. They want to be with the person who is gone. They want to see them so much, that they will go to drastic measures to see them, and that drastic measure is death.

So Shooter, you are not in a tough situation. Trust me, do not get too paranoid about this. You broke up with Kristen because you do not feel for her anymore. If she does commit suicide, it is not your fault. Why? Because she did not realize that you are not the whole world. I mean, you are just one of the fish in the sea. If she does not realize this, you have to be strong and live your life with no regrets.

Now, I just want to know if anybody has ever been in a situation that I have been in. My family friend who commited suicide. I didn't see him for like a year, and then he killed himself. I am very confused. Why? Because how can I miss him if he wasn't even in my everyday life? Am I being sell-fish by morning for him even though he was not in touch with me? So, does anybody have a feeling like this? If you do, please share it, because I need some advice.

GameMaster · 02-24-2002, 09:41 PM

I've never considered suicide. I'm emotionally stable though and I come from a pretty intelligent family so...

LoudHowardZERO · 02-24-2002, 09:56 PM

I hvae nothing to live for

excuse me whial I kill myself...

GameMaster · 02-24-2002, 09:59 PM

*excuses LoudHoward*

I hope you were joking as well

PureEvil · 02-24-2002, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter
No life might equal no pain -- for that person. Think about what pain it might cause the other people.

That's a selfish thing of you to say.

It's all "you, you, you," isn't it? It doesn't matter if the person's life has been hard, you don't want them to commit suicide because you are selfish.

Same thing goes with terminally ill people. Take cancer for example. In the end stretch, the person with cancer suffers like a stuck pig. Pain gets so bad that not even painkillers can numb them. In steps a person like Dr. Kevorkian. He administers an assisted suicide to take these people out of their misery.

However, people like Shooter bitch out people like Dr. Kevorkian because they're selfish.

"It doesn't matter if my family member is suffering in a never ending blast of pain, just as long as they're alive, because I want them to be."

Know why you want them to be alive? Not for their sake. For yours. If you were thinking of someone else's sake, you'd do what is best for them, and put them out of their misery. But no, you're selfish, so even if they're overwhelmed with constant pain(physical, emotional; it doesn't matter), you want them to be alive.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your views on suicide, but I'm suggesting you try looking at it from the other side.

Pretend you're the one with the problems and the suicidal thoughts, as opposed to the friend of that person(Whom you are now). Things aren't as simple as you're trying to make them out to be.

Suicide isn't just, "Oh, I hate my life, I'm too challenged by everything, I'll hang myself." There's considerably more to it than that. Don't just jump to the conclusion that suicidals are cowards (As so many of you do). They have their reasons, just as you have your reasons for not being suicidal.

LoudHowardZERO · 02-24-2002, 10:02 PM

I really don't have anything to live for except my cube...

and now.. if no one else bothers me I'm going to hang myself by my G-String.... Good - Bye...

marionette · 02-24-2002, 10:04 PM

ok, well i have lost a friend to suicide, a close friend. and trust me, if you think suicide will make things better, it doesn't at all. it hurts all of your family, and friends. you might think its the only thing you can do at the moment, but if you hang in there, things will eventually brighten up.

GameMaster · 02-24-2002, 10:04 PM

I think your ill and confused PE. The suicider is the one being selfish. Some people will go any length for a little attention.

nWoCHRISnWo · 02-24-2002, 10:09 PM

People who commit suicide are usually idiots.

Perfect Stu · 02-24-2002, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
People who commit suicide are usually idiots.

I REALLY hope you're kidding