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12-01-2002, 04:02 PM
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Question about a New computer
Okay, me and my dad went to FutureShop today, and they had like the latest, best computers selling for 1500-2500 bucks. Then, we looked at some of the Celerons which were only 500-800 bucks. These Celerons were pretty decent too. Specs : 256 DDR RAM, 40 GB HD, 40X CD-RW, 16X DVD ROM, 32MB graphics card, 1.8 Ghz, 6 USB 2.0 slots. I mean, that is a pretty good computer 600 bucks Canadian.
Now, I have a Pentium 2, 200 Mgz right now... And it is slow and crappy. My question is, should my dad buy this Celeron computer for a cheap price, or should we buy like a P4, 2.5 Ghz, top of the line everything?
Now keep in mind that my family and I only use the computer for word processing, internet use and we will be burning CD's. So, which one should my dad buy (and he doesn't mind upgrading again in like 3 years)?
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12-01-2002, 04:05 PM
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P4 is a much better chip then the Celeron... but in your case a Celeron might be better.
I would look into Athlons though if I were you.
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12-01-2002, 05:24 PM
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W00T...go AMD XP!!!...they're cheaper then pentiums, and as far as i know better...so yeah, besides why the hell would you want to pay $2000 for a P when you could build one yourself with the exact same specs for like half the price?
look into buying parts sepertly and then building it yourself...
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12-01-2002, 06:43 PM
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for half the price and then have to get all the software that would comp with a normal PC illegally  ... plus you dont get any tech support jus in case you mess up your system  ..
Anyway... as far as i know.. celerons are TERRIBLE for gaming.... my p2 398 mhz outperformed an 800 mhz celeron with a better vid card by a lot.. i got 2x as many frames per second while playing on a higher resolution ... so thats a pretty big performance difference...
But.. if your not doin any gaming and only use it for like burning cd's and word processing and stuff like that i guess go wih the cheap celeron.
How bout like an Athlon or a Thunderbird or maybe eaven a pentium3?.. i jus despise celeron processors...
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12-01-2002, 06:53 PM
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amd can be better, sometimes not tho. i think P4's go up to higher speeds then the amd's can.
i never had very much luck with AMD's, they run hotter too, from my experience they tend to need more fans then pentiums
and celerons suck. I'd say get a p4, but i'd never get one at thoes prices. thats outragously over priced. a bunch of the stuff they adding, you'll never need and prolly will never know what it does.
i find Dell usually gives some decent prices on fast machines.
that is if you have to buy a premade one. 
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12-01-2002, 09:27 PM
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12-02-2002, 01:19 AM
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Well, as of now I prefer MACs (Than you for making me hate M$ even more ALIENWARE!!) but since you want a PC, I'd go with the P4.
The P4 is *currently* the "bnest" PC Chip available, the Athlon WAS bettetr, about a year ago! AMD got lazy and the new AThlons bench slower than the P4's, so go for the P4. As far as the Celeron goes, you're beter off just keeping the P2, I've seen 486 Doorstops that run better than some Celerons, and the Celeron is just a cheap-@$$ version of the P4 or whatever the latest "Petium" chip available is, (when the P3 was out it was a crappy P3), so don't even bother with it. You'l wind up upgrading in about 6 months, not 3 years with the Celeron, with the P4, I'd say you can go for 3 years befoer a major overhaul, with a MAC you can go fro about 10 years before you have any "real" problems, and as far as M$ Office, gioes, tkae the copy form your old C and 'Transfer" it to the new one, I don'rt care if you piurate it, because Offic SuXP sucks like a pile of horse-dung! It's ugly, clunky, and crashes more than office 2K, avoid paying $500+ for a new, Crappyier copy of office, and just buy a PC with extra stuff in the box, and put your old copy of offic eon it, or buy a Mac.
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12-02-2002, 01:44 PM
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I built my own PC with top-of-the-line everything except for the CPU (I got a 2.53 Ghz instead of 2.8 Ghz which was a $200-$300 difference and an almost unnoticable difference in performance) and 512 MB of the best RDRAM available and a 17" CRT monitor all for about $1,500.
Consider that you probably don't want top-of-the-line everything, so you would save $150 on the videocard, $100 on the soundcard, $50 on the case, and maybe $100 on the RAM (though I wouldn't get anything less than what I got).
Then add about $120 for Win XP and speakers, and it comes out to about $1200-$1300 for a very powerful PC if you build your own.
It's not that hard to do, and you can still take your computer to Best Buy or wherever and they'll fix anything you can't figure out.
 Considering you probably won't do that, at least don't buy a Celeron PC.
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12-02-2002, 05:30 PM
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I don't want a Mac, just because my parents really don't want to change alot of things... lol.
ANd... What is so crappy about a Celeron processor? All I need the computer for is internet word processing and burning CDs... I mean, do I really need a P4 for that?
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12-02-2002, 05:58 PM
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AMD athalon XP might be better for you then.
celerons are slow, they cramp up sometimes they'll seem. eh ok, then you do something and it'll think for a few days about.
you just dont want them. you want a pc that will last.
and if you just want them for word processing, one would ask, why even bother spending money on a new one?
i find it hard to believe you woudlnt want to play some games. i mean, as long as your getting a PC, why not make it the most powerful gaming platform in your home? But meh, if it were me, id say your choices would either be AMD or Pentium.
i strongly suggest staying clear away from a celeron
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12-02-2002, 07:58 PM
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Re: Question about a New computer
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Originally posted by Joeiss
Okay, me and my dad went to FutureShop today, and they had like the latest, best computers selling for 1500-2500 bucks. Then, we looked at some of the Celerons which were only 500-800 bucks. These Celerons were pretty decent too. Specs : 256 DDR RAM, 40 GB HD, 40X CD-RW, 16X DVD ROM, 32MB graphics card, 1.8 Ghz, 6 USB 2.0 slots. I mean, that is a pretty good computer 600 bucks Canadian.
Now, I have a Pentium 2, 200 Mgz right now... And it is slow and crappy. My question is, should my dad buy this Celeron computer for a cheap price, or should we buy like a P4, 2.5 Ghz, top of the line everything?
Now keep in mind that my family and I only use the computer for word processing, internet use and we will be burning CD's. So, which one should my dad buy (and he doesn't mind upgrading again in like 3 years)?
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k...first of all, i think you should go with the AMD XP althought the new generation of celerons is nothing like the old ones that all of us have passionately come to hate, and if you're not going to use it for games, than simply get a $700 system, and use you're old monitor. And AMD XP although the processor speed in "Mhz" may seem smaller, this can be extremely misleading as AMD is much more efficient in it's use of each Mhz, so in fact, the newest P4 and the newest AMD are basically equal
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12-02-2002, 11:18 PM
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I saw the sweetest deal ever in an Aldi(cheap ass supermarket chain) add a few days ago. All this for only $899
CD RW drive
P4 2.6 GHZ
128 MB Geforce 4 Graphics card
I dont remember everything else, but I know it was some off brand ive never heard of...but at 2.6Ghz, with a Geforce 4 processor, how can you go wrong?
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12-02-2002, 11:30 PM
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Quote:
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I don't want a Mac, just because my parents really don't want to change alot of things... lol.
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Effortlessly switch from a PC to a Mac!
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12-02-2002, 11:44 PM
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The Nullified One
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Quote:
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Effortlessly switch from a PC to a Mac!
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he doesnt want a mac, get over it. 
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12-02-2002, 11:52 PM
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Perhaps I could interest you in one?
Titanium Powerbook G4
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