The 3D Movement

BreakABone · 04-27-2010, 12:01 AM

Now this thread comes from an article someone wrote, who I follow on the Twitter.

http://www.thebatt.com/features/a-3-...tion-1.1428820

And I'm curious with the recent success of Avatar. Nintendo announcing the 3DS, the PS3 just getting an update (or is getting an update, not really sure what the last update did for me) for 3D games, do you think 3D is finally here to stay?

Or will it be one of those fun gimmicks once more, that quickly loses its luster?

Typhoid · 04-27-2010, 12:10 AM

I honestly don't think it will catch on enough to stick.

Dyne · 04-27-2010, 12:36 AM

It won't stick in Home TVs. I even find LCD panels above 60Hz are way too screwy looking. What a fad.

Food for thought: Avatar on Blu-ray broke sales records. They only put the movie on the disc, and nothing else. The extended edition is coming in the fall. The 3D version isn't even planned until 2011. People who bought 3D TVs are essentially the biggest suckers in the world.

3D movies are here to stay, but prices won't be $18 anymore. People will wise up.

But I feel completely differently about the 3DS, or whatever it'll be called. Cheap, consumer-ready. And Nintendo's making a gimmick that developers will most likely have to abide by. The DS was only successful because developers saw past the touch screen eventually. 3D will not be that hard to implement.

magus113 · 04-27-2010, 12:50 AM

I uh...ugh. I don't know. I really really REALLY hope it doesn't stick.

Same thing with those 120Hz TVs. Ugh, I hate looking at those things.

Bube · 04-27-2010, 09:23 AM

I don't know if it'll catch on, but I definitely think it shouldn't.

thatmariolover · 04-27-2010, 11:09 AM

Yeah, I'm with all of you guys. I really don't want to jump to 3D until it's done well without glasses.

Even so, the PS3 is taking a massive performance hit for 3D processing. Games that should be 1080P at 60 F/S are having to be dropped to 720P at 30 F/S.

manasecret · 04-27-2010, 11:38 AM

My opinion:

Post-Avatar, 3D in theater is here to stay.

The jury is still out on whether it will stick around for the home, but I believe it will, with porn blazing the path.

For those who wish LCDs or 120 Hz to be gone, well good luck with that. Proper 3D TVs will require 120 Hz or more. Though I believe LED TVs will take over the market from LCD, though they will never be completely gone from the market. For those who don't like LCDs, why? And have you seen one of the new LED TVs, and what do you think of those compared to LCDs?

By the way, Magus, I assume when you say you don't like 120 Hz TVs that you don't like the Automotion etc. algorithms, which are not the same as 120 Hz. They just happen to come with 120 Hz TVs. And you can turn the feature off.

magus113 · 04-27-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

My opinion:

Post-Avatar, 3D in theater is here to stay.

The jury is still out on whether it will stick around for the home, but I believe it will, with porn blazing the path.

For those who wish LCDs or 120 Hz to be gone, well good luck with that. Proper 3D TVs will require 120 Hz or more. Though I believe LED TVs will take over the market from LCD, though they will never be completely gone from the market. For those who don't like LCDs, why? And have you seen one of the new LED TVs, and what do you think of those compared to LCDs?

By the way, Magus, I assume when you say you don't like 120 Hz TVs that you don't like the Automotion etc. algorithms, which are not the same as 120 Hz. They just happen to come with 120 Hz TVs. And you can turn the feature off.

Ugh thank God. I hated that crap. They were showing those TVs with Automotion at Best Buy with the Dark Knight. It was too weird.

manasecret · 04-27-2010, 04:13 PM

For the record, I personally love the Automotion etc. stuff, when it's done right on a good TV. In fact, you mentioned the Dark Knight, and that's one of my favorite movies to use it on. IMO, it really brings out the details in relatively slow-moving camera scenes with people in it. To the point where it looks like the actors are standing right there in front of me. I know that's cliche, but it's true.

It however doesn't work well with steady cam, at least for this one movie I watched recently that I can't remember the name of, and nature shows -- at least, for Planet Earth with fast moving bird scenes.

thatmariolover · 04-27-2010, 04:17 PM

I absolutely hate every implementation of Motionplus, Automotion, Smoothmotion or whatever in the Hell you want to call it. To me it looks completely inhuman and unrealistic and drastically detracts from my enjoyment of the media.

manasecret · 04-27-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I absolutely hate every implementation of Motionplus, Automotion, Smoothmotion or whatever in the Hell you want to call it.

I don't understand the hate for it, though you guys certainly are not the only ones that do.

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To me it looks completely inhuman and unrealistic and drastically detracts from my enjoyment of the media.

I don't get this. How does making the image more detailed make it look inhuman and unrealistic? If anything, it seems like it would do the exact opposite...

I wish movies were filmed in 60 or 120 fps. My guess is that it would look the same.

In fact, that's probably a big part of why the Automotion etc. has the "soap opera" effect. I believe most TV stuff is filmed in 60 fps, so it does it naturally.

magus113 · 04-27-2010, 04:37 PM

Not that there is a drastic significance but I believe that movies are shot in 24-30 FPS for the sake of having a kind of artistic effect.

KillerGremlin · 04-27-2010, 05:51 PM

3D is gay.

That's 3 DICKS. Seriously, think about it.

3D is annoying, it detracts from the movie, and it is annoying.

manasecret · 04-27-2010, 06:32 PM

You think it detracted from Avatar?

KillerGremlin · 04-27-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

You think it detracted from Avatar?

Detracted is a bit much, I think Avatar was an average film though. I think for me (the viewer), I think I have to put a bit more work into enjoying a 3D film. For me 3D films is a bit of an eyestrain and I didn't think it greatly enhanced the special effects of the film.

Basically, I'm not impressed with what 3D adds to a film. I find 3D to distract or make my viewing experience more strained and sometimes less enjoyable. Maybe I'm just not used to 3D?

I think it is a fad. Let's not forget cinema has already had a bout with 3D.