Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP

Vampyr · 08-23-2008, 08:49 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...idate/?cnn=yes

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CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has selected Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate, according to his official Web site and a text message the campaign sent to supporters on Saturday.

I don't know. I don't know anything about this guy, I really expected him to choose Hillary, just to keep from insulting all the other democrats pulling for her. If he had chose her, he could pretty much have put a check mark next to all the people who had supported her to vote for him.

I guess he can't be insulted for not having experience on his side anymore? Maybe that was the motivating factor in the decision.

Professor S · 08-23-2008, 09:55 AM

I think this is a horrible choice, for a few reasons:

1) He is extremely unlikeable. I live in the area, and while he has strong supporters here, his attitude and demeanor are ver "north east". Meaning: He can be a snide asshole to make a point, kind of like me.

That doesn't fly well in other areas of the country.

2) Obama is running on a "no experience necessary" ticket, and he chooses Biden who could only have been chosen because of his foreign policy experience, and Obama is going to have a hard time making those two things coincide if he is challenged on them.

3) Biden calling Obama "clean and articulate". Trust me, that WILL be resurfacing.

4) Ardent Hillary supporters will be pissed, and considerable (not majority) amount will vote for McCain

5) Biden is also known for making some rash comments when challenged, and that could and will be used against him. He does not have a "presidential" demeanor... well not in this centruries idea of presidential anyway.

Angrist · 08-23-2008, 10:05 AM

Didn't Hillary once say she didn't want to run for VP? Or was that Obama?

Bond · 08-23-2008, 10:07 AM

I like Mr. Biden, but some of his past comments are going to come back to hurt Obama, such as, "Obama does not have enough experience to become President" and "I'd be proud to run with or against McCain." Those will go over real well.

Obama never would have picked Hillary, he has too big of an ego to accept both Bill and Hillary onto his ticket. And by picking Biden, Obama may have screwed Hillary over yet again for another attempt at the Presidency.

The Germanator · 08-23-2008, 10:36 AM

Wow! Being a Wilmington, Delaware native, this is pretty cool for me. We took a class trip to Washington, DC and got to hang out in Biden's office. Despite how he may come off, he is a very nice man. His niece and nephew went to my school...

I respect Biden's sometimes fiery demeanor. Has it gotten him into trouble recently? Yes, he's said some stupid things like the "clean and articulate" comment and saying something to the effect that "every Dunkin' Donuts in Delaware is run by Indians" or something. However, he's also stood up to this administration a lot on the war, and that strength not to back down to the Republican attacks that Obama has already faced will be a big asset. The guy has been a senator forever and his foreign policy credentials are astounding.

And we may not want to say it, but a big help is just the fact that he is a White dude, and that will probably help more than anything.

Edit: Another reason to like the man.

THIS.

Bond · 08-23-2008, 02:41 PM

McCain should definitely not attack Biden, and should continue to solely go after Obama.

Obama needs to start throwing out names for cabinet positions, a few of which need to be Republicans, or at the least centrists.

Germy, I'm guessing that speech was after he voted for the Iraq war? Tee-hee.

The Germanator · 08-23-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

McCain should definitely not attack Biden, and should continue to solely go after Obama.

Obama needs to start throwing out names for cabinet positions, a few of which need to be Republicans, or at the least centrists.

Germy, I'm guessing that speech was after he voted for the Iraq war? Tee-hee.

Yeah, and I think he admitted that. But, as he said, he didn't expect the incompetence that the administration had in the handling of the war.

Bond · 08-23-2008, 03:43 PM

That was good. They look good together.

I don't see how they can lose.

gekko · 08-23-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Germanator

THIS.

Now, I completely agree that politicians are screwing us in Iraq, and we went in ill-equipped, yada, yada, yada. I've been on the receiving end of that shit sandwich.

However, this is the reason I hate politicians. Our defense spending was cut during the Clinton administration. Those 8 years brought us from Desert Storm into a low period where we became a peace-time force again. It was the same time period where we pulled CIA agents from the middle east, and they they wondered why come 2003 we didn't have good intelligence on Iraq? We began pulling out intelligence in '94. This dude's in a great position to stand up now and point fingers and talk the talk saying "We need change!" Where was he during the 8 years Clinton was in office? Probably sitting in his chair doing nothing.

If he honestly cared, he would've done something years ago. It's like when I hear Hilary say our troops aren't getting enough funding. Hello dumbass, you're on the Senate armed forces committee, do something about it. Politicians only get involved when it becomes popular to be involved.

I hate them all equally.

Jason1 · 08-23-2008, 04:49 PM

Ah, this is good I guess. He obviously picked him so he could relate more to white blue collar workers. His speech was good.

In the grand scheme of things though, the Vice President means absolutley nothing and does next to nothing.

gekko · 08-23-2008, 07:38 PM

And the President does what again? Last time I checked, he was only a scapegoat for Washington's bad decisions.

Bond · 08-23-2008, 11:41 PM

This is too funny:

The Germanator · 08-24-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bond

This is too funny:

The woman who made that ad...Check out her Myspace...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=392833877

If Delaware elects this "woman" I will be absolutely ashamed. I'm pretty sure New Castle County won't' allow it, but with the two "slower lower" Delaware counties out there, I wouldn't be surprised.

Bond · 08-24-2008, 01:43 PM

Oh, I agree. Entrenched senators are nearly impossible to defeat, but the video was still funny. Especially when he started talking about golf.

Professor S · 08-24-2008, 04:34 PM

Regardless of politics, I think Biden is an embarrassment. His reduiculous performance duriung the Roberts hearing bordered on humorous.

The biggest problem with Biden as VP, is that he has given the GOP more soundbytes to attack Obama with than Hillary would have. Its almost like Obama is trying to rip defeat from the jaws of victory.