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Old 07-06-2006, 09:59 PM   #1
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Default The Most Famous Trilemma

Firstly, a trilemma is basically a dilemma with three options, rather self-explanatory. The most famous trilemma is that of Christ, which to some proves the divinity of Jesus. This trilemma assumes Jesus referred to himself as the "Son of God." If so one of these three must be true:

1. Lunatic: Jesus was not the son of God, but he mistakenly believed that he was.

2. Liar: Jesus was not the son of God, and he knew it, but he said so anyway.

3. Lord: Jesus was the son of God, and thus spoke the truth.

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Old 07-06-2006, 11:07 PM   #2
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I'll just say this.


I've seen people downtown claiming to be Christ.


2000 years ago, how could you do medical proof to find out they are crazy?


People are smart, a person is dumb.


Cults still form nowadays.

You just need a mass of people claiming one thing, and others will follow.
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:02 AM   #3
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I saw a documentary recently on the miracles Jesus performed. Apparently they were all similar to well-known tricks which con artists performed at the time. People will believe almost anything if its accompanied by the proper misdirection and flair. I once saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear and also saw David Blaine levitate. They mentioned it was curious that Jesus divided the crowds into groups of 50 when he performed the "loaves and the fishes" miracle because magicians of that time period divided crowds in a similar fashion.

They did say however that the best magicians have no explanation for the miracle itself as it was written. They can replicate items on a smaller scale but nothing to the level of what the story claims Jesus did on that famous day. Stories do have a tendency to be embellished over the years but who knows.

I seriously doubt Jesus was delusional in his belief that he was the son of God. Certain psychics are delusional in that they actually believe in their powers after ample evidence to the contrary, but that's mainly because they fall victim to confirmation bias. Jesus, OTOH, performed such complicated feats that he would have to have been aware of what he was doing. So either he was a complete fake and knew it or he was the real thing.
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:28 AM   #4
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When you're crazy you can make up any expanation for anything and believe it. Perhaps he thought all the preparations needed to perform a miracle (assuming Jesus was a crazy man who thought he was the son of God) were necessary to perform the actual miracle. Like a ritual or something. Especially if believed he was channeling God's power more than wielding it.


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