What is Canada? - Page 5

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 10-22-2003, 11:34 PM

how about we leave it at this, both canada and america are great places to live, Canadian armys have been known throught history as the shock troops of the world wars, and america is now the largest military force in the world, the point is that its not a competition for.....I DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU"RE ARGUING ABOOT!

Happydude · 10-22-2003, 11:41 PM

CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK ON TOPIC?!

exept for Joe...go on

Dylflon · 10-23-2003, 12:54 AM

Aw man. You're being an idiot, Hero2. I wish you knew what you were talking about but you don't.

And America did a good job in WW2 and 1 (despite being late to both) but we all seem to forget about a little place called Russia.

Russia took out more Nazi troops than any other country. If Hitler didn't attack Russia he might have won the war. Go Russia!

And Joe is right about the Canadian forces and big things. Canadian troops came up with most of the trench tactics in WW1 that are in American soldier field guides today. The Canadian army was a thing to be feared.

But really Hero2. You're just kinda letting words fall out of your mouth. I like Americans but I don't like Americans like you. You don't know what you're saying nor do you bother to learn the facts.

Happydude · 10-23-2003, 01:02 AM

may i add something? GOOD!

RUSSIA PWNS EVERYBODY! *goes to find smiley with russian flag*

*doesnt find out*

i hate you neo...

Dylflon · 10-23-2003, 01:17 AM

WHENEVER LIFE GETS YOU
DOWN, MRS. BROWN, AND
THINGS SEEM HARD OR TOUGH,
AND PEOPLE ARE STUPID,
OBNOXIOUS OR DAFT AND YOU
FEEL THAT YOU'VE HAD QUITE
ENOUGH...

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving,
And revolving at 900 miles an hour,
That's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned
A sun that is the source of all our power.

The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour
Of the Galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our Galaxy itself contains 100 billion stars
It's 100,000 light years side to side
It bulges in the middle, 16,000 light years thick
But out by us it's just 3,000 light years wide

We're 30,000 light years from galactic central point,
We go round every 200 million years
And our Galaxy is only one of millions and billions
In this amazing and expanding Universe
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light you know,
12 million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.

So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely it is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
Because there's bugger all down here on Earth.

Rndm_Perfection · 10-23-2003, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

And America did a good job in WW2 and 1 (despite being late to both) but we all seem to forget about a little place called Russia.

Russia took out more Nazi troops than any other country. If Hitler didn't attack Russia he might have won the war. Go Russia!

And Joe is right about the Canadian forces and big things. Canadian troops came up with most of the trench tactics in WW1 that are in American soldier field guides today. The Canadian army was a thing to be feared.

The arrival of American forces were near necessity to end both wars. The American troops were only "late" because the nation was once isolationist. When the war hit home, the States fought back. After the war, because the masses with views similar to yours felt America was "late", the nation grew in power and planned to be the first to jump to a conflict, rather than the last.

Russia did a lot of fighting, but they lost more troops and civilians than they were able to take out (both wars). The Russian losses dwarved those of all the other nations combined. It wasn't the Russian troops directly, but the Russian winter that defeated Hitler. Oh yeah, Stalin, too, was an evil bastard. Good quotes though ¦¬Þ

I also feel that Hitler did not lose the war just because of the Russian winter. The combined forces of the other nations could've tackled the problem (even though Hitler was much more prepared for war... he had a spectacular military base). If all else failed... there was the nuke for endgame. Not that nukes are the "nicest" thing to do, but they sure are effective.

Saying Canadian forces came up with trench tactics? The trench wars were fought on the fronts by Germany and France. Maybe Canada sat down and worked out "etiquette", but the system itself is very European.

The Canadians probably did have a stronger military system, as they weren't as isolationist as the States. However, when the United States was called to action, they got their gear built up pretty fast.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 10-23-2003, 10:35 AM

One thing that i bet most americans dont' know is that the only reason Canada was dragged into the first and second world wars was because of England. Canada was just as eager to be an isolationist, but at that time we still had ties to the Union Jack, and we kinda got pulled in anyways.

Dylflon · 10-23-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Saying Canadian forces came up with trench tactics? The trench wars were fought on the fronts by Germany and France. Maybe Canada sat down and worked out "etiquette", but the system itself is very European.

The Canadians probably did have a stronger military system, as they weren't as isolationist as the States. However, when the United States was called to action, they got their gear built up pretty fast.

Canada participated in WW1. They fought. They fought hard. They had some major victories. That's not "sitting down".

Rndm_Perfection · 10-23-2003, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

Canada participated in WW1. They fought. They fought hard. They had some major victories. That's not "sitting down".

What the hell does that have the do with the quote, and why did you put sitting down in quotation marks? Are you trying to take those words out of context? Are you trying to make it look like I said the Canadians did nothing to help in the world wars? That is, despite the fact that even what you quoted proves otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

The Canadians probably did have a stronger military system...

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Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Maybe Canada sat down and worked out "etiquette", but the system itself is very European.

The Candians did not design trench warfare. However, it is possible that they influenced the more effective and "modern" uses of trench warfare. And I assure you that recording specifics requires sitting down unless you know that the Canadian decided to record the "etiquette" while standing up!

Do not take my words out of context.

Back to the damn topic:
Canada is a snowy place without guns...

I'll pretend that's all I think about it right now.

Joeiss · 10-23-2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe

One thing that i bet most americans dont' know is that the only reason Canada was dragged into the first and second world wars was because of England.

Ummm... We were not dragged into the second world war... We went to parliament and voted to do so. We could have said no just as easily.

And... Hitler and his Nazi's could have won WWII so easily.. but they are idiots and didn't capitalize on some major events...

Vampyr · 10-23-2003, 05:26 PM

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but the Russian winter that defeated Hitler

anyone else find it cool that the last two Anti-Christ have been defeated by a Russion Winter?

1) Hitler
2) Napoleon

Perfect Stu · 10-23-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero2

i dont know you canadians are screwed up like that

ok Joeiss has CLEARLY shown he more intelligent (among other things) than you on this subject...so I'd really just quit right there and hold onto the last scrap of dignity you may still possess

Happydude · 10-23-2003, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

ok Joeiss has CLEARLY shown he more intelligent (among other things) than you on this subject...so I'd really just quit right there and hold onto the last scrap of dignity you may still possess

lol...i kinda agree, not to be mean or anything...but it's true

Joeiss · 10-23-2003, 06:09 PM

And all from taking only 1 and a half history courses at school, hahaha.

And I do not think the Nazi's were defeated by the Russian winter alone... There was much much more.

Ace195 · 10-23-2003, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

ok Joeiss has CLEARLY shown he more intelligent (among other things) than you on this subject...so I'd really just quit right there and hold onto the last scrap of dignity you may still possess

Oh believe me he lost that a long time ago.

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And I do not think the Nazi's were defeated by the Russian winter alone... There was much much more.

I agree with you there Ie. the sniper wars and the battle of stalingrade.. Those were major factors of the defeat of the Nazi war machine. But in counter, the winter of Russia is a Major factor in their defeat if they had the weather they did when they attacked they would have easily overcome the russian forces.