$500 PS3 a Possibility

[DarkMaster]

If Nintendo had a electronic media section of their company, I can guarantee you that the Nintendo consoles would include all these extra devices. If your company also makes other form of electronic entertainment, then yeah you're going to include them with your next big multi million dollar world wide selling video game console. It's all part of marketing and company product development.

Yeah, PS2 has DVD playback, because Sony makes DVD players, big surprise. Microsoft is a computer company, the Xbox comes with a built in hard drive and dvd player, so what? These things are to be expected. Company finacial analyist know that 95% of people who play video games also watch and enjoy movies, music, etc. They want to make the most of their system. If they made it just like Nintendo's system...well then it would be just like Nintendo's system. Direct competition isn't always wanted. It's the same with the PSP and the DS, they're different, they're aimed towards different types of people. Get what you want, enjoy them for what they are.

[Null]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

You have to figure this, to include tivo like functions, you have to include a hard drive. At least a 40 gig hard drive but most likely gonna have to be larger. Right now an 80 gig goes for about 60-75 depending on brand. That will probably go down in the next year but still, thats more money tacked on to include it. Along with everything else they want to cram in it along with what MS is doing, consoles aren't gonna be cheap at first UNLESS there is a lite version. Without it, people won't buy into it at first because price is probably gonna be an issue.

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

bigger the hard drive the better, i dont agree with adding tivo funtions (prolly cuz i already own one) but the hard drive thing is a bad example. a bigger hard drive would help even more with gaming.

[Jonbo298]

I never said anything bad about a hard drive being bad for gaming. I was just expressing the cost it would increase on the console for a larger HD.

And if Nintendo did the same thing where they threw in 50 things, of which 49 I use SPARINGLY, then I would either wait for a lite version or wait for a few price drops since I don't want to blow my money on features I won't use much at all. I'm not trying to look fanboyish to Nintendo, but they are the only ones so far that hasn't said they want to throw in things to make their "All in one entertainment machines".

[MuGen]

Discussions like these go in circles and it's getting tedious.

All I know is, I like the versatility of next-gen consoles. Microsoft and Sony are doing good things with their systems.

Sure you might have a DVD player at home, or TiVo. But we all know that in crunch time packing for a vacation, your not bringing your entertainment center with you.

$500 seems a bit high for PS3. But who knows.... maybe when the PS3 comes out everyone will have high paying jobs and the economy will be sky rocketing... HEHEHE

[Null]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

I never said anything bad about a hard drive being bad for gaming. I was just expressing the cost it would increase on the console for a larger HD.

And if Nintendo did the same thing where they threw in 50 things, of which 49 I use SPARINGLY, then I would either wait for a lite version or wait for a few price drops since I don't want to blow my money on features I won't use much at all. I'm not trying to look fanboyish to Nintendo, but they are the only ones so far that hasn't said they want to throw in things to make their "All in one entertainment machines".

but thats saying that thoes extra features would cost a lot. much of the time thats not the case. sometimes they just throw it in cuz the console is able to do it. not because they want to make it do a bunch of extra things.

at launch, i garentee you the PS2 woulda costed the same as it did even without DVD playback.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Rasengan

packing for a vacation, your not bringing your entertainment center with you.

But I'm not going to bring my PS2 either, even if it does have all that extra stuff...when I go on vacation, it is to get away from everything at home. I take only clothes and money with me. (and a gameboy to play on the way to wherever i'm going). My PS2 and GCN have never left my house. Period.

Originally Posted by Gekko

I'd have to argue Microsoft is the only company with half a brain as of late.

Well...we have different stances on backwards compatability.

What Darkmaster said does make sense though...which is exactly why I'll get the Nintendo next gen system and nothing else.

[Jonbo298]

Originally Posted by Null

at launch, i garentee you the PS2 woulda costed the same as it did even without DVD playback.

Without DVD movie playback, the price wouldn't be much different anyways because the console can already read DVD's so the price wouldn't have been much different anyways.

[TheGame]

Ps2 would have costed Sony around $30-50 less (each) to make if it didn't have DVD playback.... there is a licencing fee which is much more friendly now then it ever was then. The licence was high enough to pursuade MS to make there gamers pay the extra fee themselves to watch DVDs on Xbox... good ol $30 remote.

But when you take into account the huge amounts of money Sony and Microsoft lost with the launch of the systems... adding DVD playback wasn't all that bad when compared to the expense of the rest of the hardware. When Sony first released Ps2 in Japan, DVD playback pretty much killed Sony's income because at the time it was the cheapest DVD player Japanese people could buy.

What's the point of my post? I dunno... Sony owned ass this generation with the new feature, and Nintendo continues their slide down hill without Online play and and extra features. How big of a factor was it? Who knows... What's the point of my post? That's for you to know and for me to find out.

[Null]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Without DVD movie playback, the price wouldn't be much different anyways because the console can already read DVD's so the price wouldn't have been much different anyways.

thats exactly my point! and what i've been saying in this topic a few times.

these features everyones saying "i dont want my game console to do this or that" are features that it can basically already do, adding them is not going out of thier way to add em at all.


depending on how the TIVO is done on it, if its kinda thier own version. its basically just a program running on the hard drive to do it. so it might not be outta thier way at all.