Return of the King - Spoiler Version

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

I think it was the worst of the three (but Im not really sure...I sprang my ankle really bad right before the movie, and it was throbbing with the pain the whole way through. It really killed the experiance.)

I think you should watch it again and reconsider your position.

Homosexuality. This movie was FULL OF IT! And what makes it worse, Ian McKellan really IS gay. I mean, that scene where they were all laughing in that room, and frodo and merry and pippin are on the bed...that was just wrong.

That wasn't homosexuality. It was a group of men celebrating.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

Homosexuality. This movie was FULL OF IT! And what makes it worse, Ian McKellan really IS gay. I mean, that scene where they were all laughing in that room, and frodo and merry and pippin are on the bed...that was just wrong.

That was not homosexual in the least. The only reason people say that there's tons of homosexuality in this movie is because they can't take a relationship between two guys that's not the sterotypical punching-arms beer glugging that is usually imagined.

And so what if Ian McKellan is gay? It doesn't carry over to Gandalf at all. If you hadn't already known that he was gay, there would be no way for you to realize it just by watching The Lord of the Rings.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Bond]

Exactly Ginkasa.

Ian McKellen is an excellent actor regardless of his sexual preference.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

That was not homosexual in the least. The only reason people say that there's tons of homosexuality in this movie is because they can't take a relationship between two guys that's not the sterotypical punching-arms beer glugging that is usually imagined.

And so what if Ian McKellan is gay? It doesn't carry over to Gandalf at all. If you hadn't already known that he was gay, there would be no way for you to realize it just by watching The Lord of the Rings.


*shrugs and walks away*

In the first two movies it didnt carry over...but it did in this movie. Or at least I think it did. And its not because Ian McKellan himself is gay, its because they made him act somewhat gay. I dont care who was playing Gandalf, he still had some scenes that hinted at homosexuality.

Sorry if I offended you guys godlike image of this movie...I just thought it was a tad gay in parts. I of course wouldnt have minded but two of my friends setting beside me laughed outloud at every part that hinted at gay innuendo.

Everyone seems to think this movie is the shiz and that there is nothing greater. Dont bash the guy who comes along and thinks it wasnt the paragon of all movies.

The main reason I thought it was slightly less than the first two was not because of the gay tendacies, but because of the DIALOGUE. It was great at most parts (Aragorn's speech, Theodin's speech, etc.) But at other parts it was rather stupid.

For example, Aragorn is explaining this big plan to attack souron at mordor to draw the gaze away from Frodo and Sam. He gives this big explanation on how they will get his attention, then Legolas says this, in his mystic elven voice "A diversion.......!" I couldnt help but say "no? really? Aragorn just told you that!"

But nothing against Legolas, I would give anything to have been the guy who played Legolas. Im not saying I could do a better job than Orlando, but he had the coolest role in the history of time. Aragorn, he had a sword. Gimili had an axe. Legolas had elven blades and a bow and arrow, and he was all surfing on elephant trunks and sliding on shields. That's just awesome. Bloom will be remembered for a long time as the coolest guy ever.

[Happydude]

i saw it on sunday, and i loved it! great movie...although some parts were pretty dumb, like the "A diversion" part and the whole scene on the bed...other then those it was great

[DarkMaster]

Your right, Gandalf was gay in that bedroom scene, for he was laughing happily. Homosexual, however, he was not.

Smeagol, I suppose, would be homosexual as well then, for when he was speaking to Deagol he called him "my love". But you see, in the days of old, it was perfectly fine to love another man, even if you didn't want to have sexual relations with them. You loved them because they were a dear friend or relative. Frodo kissing Sam on the head, Gandalf laughing happily, do we see these things as being homosexual?

It's all in accordance to the society that we live and what it has tought us. That loving a person of the same gender is homosexual in any form, and we cannot express any sort of deeper feelings we may have towards those persons as we would then we labelled as a homosexual.

[Joeiss]

Oh ok, Saruman... lol... my bad. I think I might read the trilogy.... Or should I start with the Hobbit first? By the way, how many books are there that include Gandalf and Bilbo before the LOTR? And how many books are there after?

[DarkMaster]

Gandalf and Bilbo are in one book before LotR, which is The Hobbit. Maybe there are some other ones containing the history of Gandalf's life or something, I'm not sure. As for books after LotR, I may be wrong, but I don't think there are any.

[thatmariolover]

While the Hobbit is a good story to read, it's really not necessary. I would definately advise it. It's a much easier book to read than the trilogy is, and probably slightly more fun. But it doesn't tell a tale near as epic.

It kind of sets up the plot.

[Canyarion]

DEFINATELY read The Hobbit! It's a great introduction to Middle-Earth... it explains so much about the One Ring, Gandalf, Smeagol and hobbits...

I really want to see TRotK again.
The Eagles helped out more often than TML says: They fight in the battle of 5 armies (Elves, Dwarves, Men, Orcs, Wargs). They carry Gandalf to Lórien after his ressurection. They help out in front of the Black Gate.

Gandalf's body died and his spirit went back to the Gods in the west. They sent him back, more powerful as the White Wizard. (The movie doesn't tell that Saruman abandoned his White position by choosing 'of many colours'...)

Tacoes are waiting.

Oh yeah, gotta see all the trailers and teasers...

[Crash]

i just saw the movie a second time, let me say that it was even better the second time, I liked the movie way better than the second one (even though with the extended version, the second one redeemed itself much). I can slightly see the homosexual crap, but it really isn't something that stands out so much as to ruin the movie. PJ did an absolutely fabulous job of showing the friendship between sam and frodo, I loved it. Sean Astin deserves an oscar for his performance as sam.

The only complaint I have is that they made the general of the orc army a "white" orc. whether that was to thwart off any "racism" crap in the movies or whatever, I didn't like the fact he looks like the guy from goonies. Oh well, great movie anyways!

[DarkMaster]

Originally Posted by Crash

The only complaint I have is that they made the general of the orc army a "white" orc. whether that was to thwart off any "racism" crap in the movies or whatever, I didn't like the fact he looks like the guy from goonies. Oh well, great movie anyways!

His face was a pinkish color, and I thought it was because it had been badly burned or something of that matter, which would also explain the severe deformity.

[Happydude]

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

which would also explain the severe deformity.

no...that's a birth defect

[Hero2]

The Movie reminded me of a good game of warcraft
they started out building up forces (note the humans and elfves are on the same team)
they start fighting, the orcs have more units because there cheaper to make
the humans have some medium units(cavlary) Then the orcs come out with the big stuff...then you get pissed off and cheat(ghost army) and then its just clean up work from there. It makes cents well at least to me it does

the end of the movie, after the ghost army, was kind of boring imo

[Jonbo298]

lol, that sounds about right Hero2 now that I think about it.