$500 PS3 a Possibility

[Null]

if anything its nintendo thats ruining it by not listening to gamers.

but no, games are games, it doesnt matter if your console doubles as a toaster, it still plays games and that toaster doesnt effect them.

personally i like it. case in point, just last week i went on vacation to canada to go 'camping' well i brought my PS2, and because i brought that i didnt need to bring a DVD player to watch movies.

at home i have a much better dvd player, so i dont use it, that doesnt effect the great games it has at all.

[Ace195]

I agree with you to a point null, on one side a dvd player is great and grand, but what the heck is the TiVo system for so when they are playing games they can record the shows they would have watched thus leading to the fattening of america so the japanese can invade. J/k about the japanese invasion but I'm serious about adding things that aren't needed. If you could show me one purpose for the TiVo system aside from the recording shows I'll bite my tongue

[TheGame]

Anylists aren't all that bad... I remember one article predicting Sony would sell over 50 Million Ps2's and put Microsoft and Nintendo at just over 20 million sold. Maybe just a lucky guess? Who knows...

As far as the future of gaming goes, I think Sony and Microsoft has only helped the industry to evolve for the better. Nintendo is a great gaming company, but adapting to evolution isn't their strong point. I think the only reason Nintendo is still alive and kicking as a hardware creator today is the Gameboy... a system that hasn't experienced real competition and that is extremely slow to evolution. (In both game quality and hardware quality)

[Jonbo298]

If MS/Sony don't offer "lite" versions of their consoles without all these extra things I won't be buying them for some time. If I already have a tivo, why do I need tivo like functions on my PS3 and Xbox2?

The $500 versions of these consoles (if it happens) will not be the choice for me. I just want a console that plays games. DVD movie playback doesn't matter because it basically doesn't cost much to include playback. I can live with it on consoles. But I just dont need the other stuff that jacks up the price.

[Typhoid]

I buy consoles to play games, not watch movies or record shows i could be watching while playing my new shiny console.

I think they should stop adding things to them, most people just want them to play games with.

[Vampyr]

I agree with Typhiod and Jonbo. Nintendo seems to be the only company with half a brain as of late (wow. when did that happen? I've always loved nintendo, but they got smart here recently.)

Remember back when the GCN first came out, and some people complained because it didnt have DVD player capabilities? At the time I was a little dissapointed (then I got a DVD player for christmas, so I didnt care.) When I go out and purchase a VIDEO GAME system, I purchase it for the sole purpose of playing video games. That's it. I dont want to watch movies, I dont want to record shows, and I dont want to use it to make brownies.

If sony DOES do this, and it DOES cost 500 dollars, then I wont get it. period. I trust Nintendo to do what they've always done: give us a great system that plays GAMES. If sony does do this, and they dont offer versions with all that crap taken out, I predict that it will be their downfall.

There arent many people who will pay 500 dollars for a system, and 300 dollars for the portable system.

[Typhoid]

I have a question, if the Sony consoles can do all this DVD and TiVo stuff, why cant their TivO and DVD stuff play games!?!?

Whats the difference?

[gekko]

If a built-in TiVo could record me playing the game, I would want it. Would make sending in records a lot easier.

I'm actually getting a TiVo when I get out the Corps, but would love to have one now, if I could use it while playing a game.

And surprisingly, I'd have to argue Microsoft is the only company with half a brain as of late.

[Null]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I have a question, if the Sony consoles can do all this DVD and TiVo stuff, why cant their TivO and DVD stuff play games!?!?

Whats the difference?

and the difference is......



*drum roll*









one plays games, one doesnt.

didnt see that one comin did ya? heheh

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Null

and the difference is......



*drum roll*









one plays games, one doesnt.

didnt see that one comin did ya? heheh

No but i mean, why have a game system that can play games and record tv, and play DVD's, and not do the same to the other two? it kind of makes them obsolete dont you think?

Because if you buy the system that has all of them, you dont need to buy the other ones.

[Acebot44]

Non gamers wouldnt want to pay extra so that they could have the ability to play games on their DVD player when they just want to watch movies.

[Null]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

No but i mean, why have a game system that can play games and record tv, and play DVD's, and not do the same to the other two? it kind of makes them obsolete dont you think?

Because if you buy the system that has all of them, you dont need to buy the other ones.

kinda talking in circles.

movies and tv are something most every gamer users.

games are not something most every movie watcher uses.

And for some consoles, that are already using a DVD drive for media, adding DVD playback is not costing much and just makes sence.
what the hell would be the point to use a DVD drive and take away its ability to play movies? xbox and PS2 did not go out of thier way to add DVD playback. it was there already basically.

tivo is another matter, it might have something to do witht he hard drive tho and its prolly more like tivo ability not really the tivo brand.

the ability to use tivo style things is cheap. i can download free ones and run em on my PC just like a Tivo would work.

As long as they're not going out of thier way and adding stuff just to add it and tack on money to the overall cost. who the hell really cares?

[Jonbo298]

You have to figure this, to include tivo like functions, you have to include a hard drive. At least a 40 gig hard drive but most likely gonna have to be larger. Right now an 80 gig goes for about 60-75 depending on brand. That will probably go down in the next year but still, thats more money tacked on to include it. Along with everything else they want to cram in it along with what MS is doing, consoles aren't gonna be cheap at first UNLESS there is a lite version. Without it, people won't buy into it at first because price is probably gonna be an issue.

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

[tarakan69]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

But I'm not gonna worry too much right now. E3 2005 is when most of this info. will be concrete or at least more realistic

Too true...

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Acebot44

Non gamers wouldnt want to pay extra so that they could have the ability to play games on their DVD player when they just want to watch movies.

And gamers wouldn't want to pay extra so that they could watch movies on their game console when they just want to play games.