GOP Purity Test - Page 2

Bond · 11-30-2009, 01:56 PM

What's the point of posting these videos about Sarah Palin? Didn't she receive enough lambasting during the campaign?

TheGame · 11-30-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

What's the point of posting these videos about Sarah Palin? Didn't she receive enough lambasting during the campaign?

No she didn't, IMO.

As long as I feel she has a legit chance to run for national office again, she will continue to get this treatment. If she turned into a nobody who doesn't have a chance anymore (which she SHOULD be), then I wouldn't feel obligated to waste my time posting about her.

Bond · 11-30-2009, 06:43 PM

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No she didn't, IMO.

So the media went too easy on her? How so?

Was she treated more kindly in relation to Joe Biden?

TheGame · 11-30-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

So the media went too easy on her? How so?

Was she treated more kindly in relation to Joe Biden?

I don't believe that the media should be balanced, I belive that they should be in pursuit of the truth. And the truth is that Sarah Palin is an absolute joke. So I think it is the Media's job to expose her for what she is.

It's not like I linked a video to someone's opinion of her, she made herself look bad. And if I was the owner of any news station, I'd allow her on any time to answer these kind of questions so people understand what she is.

Bond · 11-30-2009, 07:38 PM

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I don't believe that the media should be balanced, I belive that they should be in pursuit of the truth. And the truth is that Sarah Palin is an absolute joke. So I think it is the Media's job to expose her for what she is.

It's not like I linked a video to someone's opinion of her, she made herself look bad. And if I was the owner of any news station, I'd allow her on any time to answer these kind of questions so people understand what she is.

Did Joe Biden, on the other hand, receive the proper amount of lambasting, too little, or too much?

Jonbo298 · 11-30-2009, 06:05 PM

Wait, did she answer that question or not? My brain lost itself about 20 seconds in...

Bond · 12-01-2009, 03:21 PM

I realize now I did not properly explain my remarks. Let me try to make what I meant to say a little more clear, and hopefully this will alleviate some confusion.

I do not like Sarah Palin, on a personal or political level. I would not vote for her or support her in any election. McCain's choice of Palin as a running mate was one of the main reasons why I chose not to vote for McCain.

But my intention was not to voice my personal view on Palin, but rather how I viewed her coverage by the media, and more specifically The New Yorker.

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Who the hell are these "elitists" anyways? Is elitist is now a negative term used by Republicans to refer to educated people? I remember in the Obama run, when people brought up his education, Fox News would refer to him as an elitist. It's just another new buzz word that we'll hear used over and over again. And it's a shame because being smart should not have negative connotations.

I think you may have overly generalized my comment. I said, specifically:

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What do elitists who write for The New Yorker and other such publications fear the most? The likable Republican. Hard to beat in an election. That being said, I like a lot of the elitists at The New Yorker, but it is important to look at the issue both ways.

I was specifically referencing certain persons who write for The New Yorker, a magazine that I read and listen to regularly. I was specifically thinking of Dorothy Wickenden, Hendrik Hertzberg, and Ryan Lizza, as the "elitists" I mentioned.

Now, I also do not attach a negative connotation to elitist, just as I do not attach a negative connotation to being a "commoner" or "common person." But, there are stark differences between the two, rarely can the two see eye-to-eye, and rarely can the two understand each other. What is not understood is often feared.

Edit: This inability to relate leads to my point of the elitist New Yorker writers fearing Sarah Palin, because she is a fairly popular political figure, especially in the more rural areas of our country. It is difficult for those political pundits I mentioned above to understand Palin's appeal because they cannot relate to her - just as I also cannot relate to her. Of course, I do not fear her, but I also do not have any sort of financial or other stake in politics.

Typhoid · 12-01-2009, 06:58 PM

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4) She is an easy target with her accent and "folksiness".

In any case, she needs to diminish her publicly facing role in the party, if she cares about the health of her party. She attracts the social/religious base, but damages the attraction to moderates and fiscal Republicans and with the level of media scrutiny she attracts she is a distraction and prevents attention being made for real ideas to be presented by the GOP.

First off, I don't think she has an accent. Then again you're from the east coast and all.

I don't think it has anything to do with the health of the party anymore. She's not hurting Republicans at this point, just herself. She's slowly getting distance from the Republicans by doing what she's been doing for the past year and a half.

I think her main problem is that she's clearly playing up the "White middle class America" role. Constantly talking about how "normal" she is, and how she's just a "hockey mom" and "likes hunting like the typical Alaskan family" and things of the like. I would respect her more if she wasn't such a puppet to trying to get popular. She isn't normal. She was the head of a state. That immediately removes "normal" status.

At this point Sarah Palin is only hurting Sarah Palin. I don't think anyone associates the stupid things she says/gets caught on double-talking about with the Republican party anymore.

Bond · 12-01-2009, 06:55 PM

Does that clear my position up?

TheGame · 12-01-2009, 08:33 PM

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Does that clear my position up?

Yup, the only thing I'd say to that is that her role in you not voting for Mccain proves a point. She turns off people who really follow politics closely. If I'm only going to have two realistic choices, I'd prefer she not be one of them.

Though I do have a question for this topic, since you and prof both mentioned that Biden isn't qualified to be president. In your book, what does someone have to do to be qualified to be the president of the united states?