Remembrance Day.

Hero2 · 11-02-2003, 11:36 PM

same here

One Winged Angel · 11-02-2003, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero2

let me put it in lamens terms (or stupid talk) for you

I could give a **** if you thought it was right or worng. we did it we killed people whatever excuse you want me to justify it with you can have we still ended the war.

i apoligise for the language

I agree that history can't be changed. I'm not challenging the fact it ended the war.

I'm saying your view why it was good is poor and immature.

ominub · 11-02-2003, 11:44 PM

i say we nuked them for fun but thats just me

Rndm_Perfection · 11-02-2003, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero2

let me put it in lamens terms (or stupid talk) for you

I could give a **** if you thought it was right or worng. we did it we killed people whatever excuse you want me to justify it with you can have we still ended the war.

i apoligise for the language

Oh please, Hero, do everyone a favor and get your act together by shutting the hell up on subjects like this, those of which long posts by you spell nothing but disaster. Your whine-ass attitude of "nuke all, I really don't give a **** 'cause that's the cool way to go, I think I'm wasted, d00d... did I really post that?", sort of crap.

You insult yourself by trying to say you'll dumb down to someone's level... through a labyrinth of confusion in grammatical and spelling errors.

Did anyone else feel a

-ing was called for?

Edit: P.S. Ominub posted his opinion just now. Even though I may not agree with it, I can respect it a bit more than Hero's mind-boggling masquerade.

Hero2 · 11-03-2003, 12:01 AM

first of all i dident say nuke them all im srry i cant spell but its not that bad and i dont relly care if what i say is cool or not

i just think its dumb that people complian that people died

One Winged Angel · 11-03-2003, 12:06 AM

Holy ****!

Just use punctuation!

Hero2 · 11-03-2003, 12:08 AM

i cant i have to type fast im at work and only have like 30 sec to post.

One Winged Angel · 11-03-2003, 12:24 AM

Well, considering you have time to read all the posts, and browse around and wait for a response to your dumbass post, I seriously doubt it.

Hero2 · 11-03-2003, 12:32 AM

whatever im done arguing thats not what this tread is about and if you want to argue go with a wall youll be on the same level

Vampyr · 11-03-2003, 11:23 PM

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Another city had to be destroyed though? Couldn't the US just **** up a large japanese island or Japan's largest military base(s)?

Yes. We had to go for the city. Dont you get it? War isnt about honor or salvation, we did what we had to do. We broke their back and showed them that we would do whatever we had to to win that war. We showed them that the mighty U.S.A would not take any crap. We dropped one bomb, and the Japanese did not surrender because they did not think we had been able to produce more than one bomb.

So they asked us to drop another. They were that confident. And what did we do? Well, Harry gave them Hell.

People will say that it wasnt something to be proud of, but can you look at me and say that any act commited in a war is something to be proud of? We did what needed to be done, and what did it get us? Victory.

TheSlyMoogle · 11-08-2003, 01:47 AM

It may have gotten us victory, but it was on the horizon already. We didn't need to drop those bombs. Victory in Japan was almost ours and instead we drop bombs and kill around 150,000. Not to mention all of those who died from radiation later, or all the problems the radiation caused for the next 45 years. Nuclear weapons should never be used. How horrid.

Oh and the pilot who flew and dropped the bombs went crazy a few weeks after. You would too.

One Winged Angel · 11-09-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

It may have gotten us victory, but it was on the horizon already. We didn't need to drop those bombs. Victory in Japan was almost ours and instead we drop bombs and kill around 150,000. Not to mention all of those who died from radiation later, or all the problems the radiation caused for the next 45 years. Nuclear weapons should never be used. How horrid.

Oh and the pilot who flew and dropped the bombs went crazy a few weeks after. You would too.

We never really knew how strong the nuclear weapons were. It was still the 40's and we didn't know the effect of the bombs.

Yes we had to bomb Japan. Those Japanese have so much nationalism in their blood, they wouldn't give up. Hell, even after the first bomb they still refused to give up. It was a miracle Japan gave up after the second bomb, otherwise we would've been in war with them for even longer, considering we didn't have anymore Nuclear weapons at the time.

Horrid, I agree. Sometimes Drastic Actions are required to end drastic times.

Crono · 11-09-2003, 08:08 PM

A bomb was tested before the Hiroshima bomb was dropped... so they did know how destructive they were. Just though I'd point that out.

Vampyr · 11-10-2003, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OWA

I knew that, but they didn't know what side effects it gave to people rather than blowing them to bits.

Maybe not, but it got us a victory, and thats all that matters.

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Originally Posted by SlyMoogle

It may have gotten us victory, but it was on the horizon already. We didn't need to drop those bombs. Victory in Japan was almost ours and instead we drop bombs and kill around 150,000. Not to mention all of those who died from radiation later, or all the problems the radiation caused for the next 45 years. Nuclear weapons should never be used. How horrid.

Oh and the pilot who flew and dropped the bombs went crazy a few weeks after. You would too.

Thats war. You have casualities, thats what its all about. And I support nuclear weapons, as long as we're the ones using them. And I think we went to easy on the Japanese, we should have went for Tokyo. They got off lucky, we could have done a lot more.

When your in a war, or in any fight for that matter, you dont slap the other guy and walk away. You beat his freaking brains out until he's bleeding out of every hole in his body and he doesnt have enough strength left to blink. Thats how you win and keep a victory. If you just slap them until they're down, it will just leave them angry and pissed at you, and they will come back. You have to show the bastards that if they even look at you the wrong way, you'll kill them. That the next time they even imagine attacking you, that you'll make their little archipilago non-existant.

The guy who went crazy...he wasnt a very good soldier. I would go crazy, but Im not claiming to be a soldier, now am I?

PureEvil · 11-10-2003, 07:53 PM

I think it's fairly clear that the nukes were a retaliation for what the Japanese did at Pearl Harbour. The US probably could have finished the whole thing off with just regular forces, but the nukes did a good job of that, and did so without costing the US military any more lives. Moreover, they acted as sort of saying "This is what happens when you f*ck with us" for the 'States, which is always a nice way of assuring you won't be victim to too much more aggression.

Same with 9-11. As I'm sure you've noticed, the 'States went somewhat buck wild and started attacking everything they could think of that had anything to do with the attacks against them.

The United States is a powerful country and wants the world to know that, and so acts against them (especially on their own soil) are completely untolerated, and it seems they will always be returned with fierce vengeance.

The nuclear bombs in Japan probably weren't completely necessary, but they served their function, put a finite end to the war, and boosted the military standing of the United States in the eyes of the world.

Welcome to politics.