I have figured out THE MATRIX

Jewels · 10-15-2003, 12:21 PM

this writer of the the movie is a confusing nerd, but thanks for clearing it up!!

Joeiss · 10-15-2003, 02:48 PM

He didn't really clear anything up.. its just a theory..

Stonecutter · 10-16-2003, 05:05 PM

I think I'm going to pick up Reloaded on DVD tonight.

But I just have to drop this in.

If Revolutions ends, and it's a dream, or a video game, or a virtual realty thing, or an acid trip, and you see this movie at the same theater that I did, you had better ****ing run, because everyone near me is going to die if they pull that bull**** on us.

Rndm_Perfection · 10-16-2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

I think I'm going to pick up Reloaded on DVD tonight.

But I just have to drop this in.

If Revolutions ends, and it's a dream, or a video game, or a virtual realty thing, or an acid trip, and you see this movie at the same theater that I did, you had better ****ing run, because everyone near me is going to die if they pull that bull**** on us.

I was thinking the same damn thing...

Hey, I live about two hours away from Chicago, I say we see the movie together and bring big sticks.

Rndm_Perfection · 10-19-2003, 10:51 PM

Crash, I watched Reloaded today and noticed something when the crew went to the "Frenchy"s restaurant. While walking in, he sees someone being escorted out... the guy's got a beard, so I assume he's the bum people've been talking about. Can I get any verification on this?

Also, Frenchy mentions that he's survived Neo's predicesors *sp*, which most likely means the previous "ones". But, could that possibly be much more recent than "intended"? That is, instead of surviving the previous "ones" from way back... maybe the bum/ex-one was trying to kidnap the keymaker.

Just a thought.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 10-19-2003, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Crash, I watched Reloaded today and noticed something when the crew went to the "Frenchy"s restaurant. While walking in, he sees someone being escorted out... the guy's got a beard, so I assume he's the bum people've been talking about. Can I get any verification on this?

Also, Frenchy mentions that he's survived Neo's predicesors *sp*, which most likely means the previous "ones". But, could that possibly be much more recent than "intended"? That is, instead of surviving the previous "ones" from way back... maybe the bum/ex-one was trying to kidnap the keymaker.

Just a thought.

i never noticed that, but i'll look into it (about whether that was the bum or not)

The Duggler · 10-19-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Crash, I watched Reloaded today and noticed something when the crew went to the "Frenchy"s restaurant. While walking in, he sees someone being escorted out... the guy's got a beard, so I assume he's the bum people've been talking about. Can I get any verification on this?

Also, Frenchy mentions that he's survived Neo's predicesors *sp*, which most likely means the previous "ones". But, could that possibly be much more recent than "intended"? That is, instead of surviving the previous "ones" from way back... maybe the bum/ex-one was trying to kidnap the keymaker.

Just a thought.

His name is the Merovingian. And I'm pretty sure that there is at least a hundred years between emergences of the ones, and that all the previous ones are dead, due to aging, but some might have their mind trapped inside the matrix, who knows? But where does the theorie of the bum being a previous one come from? Is it simply Crash's idea?

Rndm_Perfection · 10-19-2003, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitram

His name is the Merovingian. And I'm pretty sure that there is at least a hundred years between emergences of the ones, and that all the previous ones are dead, due to aging, but some might have their mind trapped inside the matrix, who knows? But where does the theorie of the bum being a previous one come from? Is it simply Crash's idea?

If "the one" is a program (which it most likely is), then he might be able to live forever. Or, the one could bend the rules of aging, as he does with many other basic laws.

Now, what if the Merovingian was a previous one (yes, a bit far-fetched). Reasons why I'd think this:

- Oracle quoted (approx) "He's one of the old ones". Could simply mean that he was just some old program... but to do what?

- Merovingian quoted (approx) "Deal with them... deal with them? Have you no respect for your predicessors?" followed later by "I have survived your predicessors, and I will survive you"

- The woman quoted (approx) "He was different... he was like you"

I await Revolutions.

Morpheus1 · 10-15-2003, 02:59 PM

This sounds oddly like the FAKE LEAKED SCRIPT I seen on the net not too long ago

Crash, you need to watch the part with Neo and the Architect in reloaded a few more times. After you do you will realize the whole point of The Matrix Reloaded and what makes Neo "The One"

Neo's purpose is to find 7 males and 16 females to rebuild Zion after it gets destroyed, and NEO is the one who has to make the same prophecy again to look for The One. There were 6 other ones and 6 other matrixes, every time a new "One" comes it only prepares a new Zion while an upgrade to the Matrix is being made.

The problem with the first matrix was that there was no "choice" in the world, and the humans locked in didn't even believe that they had a choice, that's why they rejected it. The Architect said a female stumbled upon the conclusion that they have to make man believe they have a choice, even though they don't. What makes Neo the one isn't his abilities, it's the fact that he can chose.

Neo is presented with a choice to either save Zion and start up fresh again after it destroyed, or save trinity and be the reason everybody in the Matrix dies and destroying the existence of Human race. He chose to have Zion to be destroyed and save trinity, or so we think...

The problem with Neo is that he has a choice, and even the Oracle says that she can predict the future of his choices, but anything past his choices neither him nor the oracle can see. That's why in that dream with trinity it stopped, because there was a choice that he had to make that he wasn't aware of yet, but everything else that happened was going to happen no matter what.

(^This is all facts gathered from Reloaded, I suggest you watch that movie again and pay close attention when the Merovingian [sp?] and the Architect speak.)

The Duggler · 10-15-2003, 03:35 PM

Good post Morpheus, I kind of think of it like that too.

But this is an interesting theorie as well (well it's more of a spoiler of revolutions)

POSSIBLE SPOILER: http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix

Happydude · 10-15-2003, 03:48 PM

ok...i didnt read it...but DID YOU HAVE TO POST IT?!?!?! COULD YOU POST IT IN THE SCI FACT FORUM OR SOMTHING!?!?!?! ARHHHHH!!!!

MY VIRGIN EYES SAW SOMETHING THAT SAID "IF THE REAL WORLD IS A PREVIOUS MATRIX" AHHH!!!

Null · 10-15-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranzid

Good post Morpheus, I kind of think of it like that too.

But this is an interesting theorie as well (well it's more of a spoiler of revolutions)

POSSIBLE SPOILER: http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix

i said that in a pervious matrix thread here... that website is considered around MANY forums to be far in the lead of all the 'spoilers' out there as 'the real spoiler' dunno if it is the real one or not. but it doesnt explain things. it more tells a story. if its real it leaves a lot of the explination stuff out.

DimHalo · 10-15-2003, 04:46 PM

I guess I didn't realize how much of these concepts I didn't understand until I read the theories. Now I feel like I need to give them all closer examination.

BigJustinW · 10-15-2003, 09:29 PM

Um, I think that link is to the fake leaked script... and once again, it says that Neo gets attacked and blinded by bane while he is in the matrix. If so, how is it possible that a Neo that can see is having a conversation with Bane in the newest trailer and Bane reveals himself to be Smith... Directly to Neo.

Everybody, that story is in fact false.

If you want more proof, there was an interview with the girl who plays "Z" in the movie, and she says that the last Matrix movie will have a true ending w/o any obvious openings for a sequal like the first two matrixes. That's not what is on that site now is it...?

That site makes no sense when you compare it to the philosophy of the Matrix Reloaded or the newest trailers... If that site were true, the Matrix reloaded would be a pure waste of film.

Joeiss · 10-15-2003, 09:34 PM

I thought you left.. Get the hell outa here!