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Old 10-09-2003, 12:42 PM   #1
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If some things were changed about rep (amount you can give, and so on), I would say keep it. It's fine the way it is, but it's too easy to get raped in such a short amount of time. But otherwise, I think it has really patched up the forums--it's good to have a system like this to show people not to be dumbasses, and to promote intelligence. I like that.
It shows nothing. It doesnt promote intelligence, it promotes misbehaviour and abuse, and it causes annoyance.

People with high rep have a high post count. It doesnt mean a damn thing.
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Old 10-09-2003, 01:03 PM   #2
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Getting rid of rep and giving the forums a new design would make GT a lot better. I'm kind of sick of blue and grey, and the old red and black was really cool.
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Old 10-09-2003, 02:19 PM   #3
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The "new beta skin" is now available in your user cp under Options and then Style Set. Codenamed "Child of gekko art."
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Old 10-09-2003, 02:30 PM   #4
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Gecko color scheme.

It's A'ight

But I did like dbln's much better than rep.
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Old 10-10-2003, 12:05 AM   #5
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The "new beta skin" is now available in your user cp under Options and then Style Set. Codenamed "Child of gekko art."
I like this better, but it can be way better.

For the window that has the Forum, Posts, Threads, Last Post. and Moderator written on it, change that to red instead of leaving it as blue.

And the yellow link fonts, that looks bad.

And Bond, here's my test forum...

http://tactocsogre.proboards9.com/index.cgi

No one's a member there because that's my test forum. My real board has 800+ members with more boards and looks exactly like my test forum.... (I am not advertising, that's why I linked my test forum).

Anyways, do you like that look? It's not 100% complete yet, we still have to finish the icons and a few banners.
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Old 10-10-2003, 01:46 PM   #6
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I like this better, but it can be way better.

For the window that has the Forum, Posts, Threads, Last Post. and Moderator written on it, change that to red instead of leaving it as blue.

And the yellow link fonts, that looks bad.

And Bond, here's my test forum...

http://tactocsogre.proboards9.com/index.cgi

No one's a member there because that's my test forum. My real board has 800+ members with more boards and looks exactly like my test forum.... (I am not advertising, that's why I linked my test forum).

Anyways, do you like that look? It's not 100% complete yet, we still have to finish the icons and a few banners.
I like the style, but it is too dark overall, and it is very difficult to read much of anything. I would recommend getting a brighter color for the text, like white or something really close.
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Old 10-10-2003, 03:03 PM   #7
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Rep is only an illusion to feel self-security. By getting good feedback from members, one feels wanted. Just because one has a bunch of pips, he/she feels loved. Oh yes, you - Dyne - should know what I'm taking about. It's the same reason you make banners for other newbies in bulk. You want your influence spread, and you enjoy pleasing others with your talents (not necessarily a bad thing).

Trying to give the excuse that rep is a way of telling people they are "dumbasses" is ridiculous, in my opinion. It's much more public and impossible to hide one's identity if the person plainly state his/her opinion on the board rather than docking the other on reputation.

It's impossible for reputation to be abused, according to what you feel is the system's purpose, Dyne. It can only be abused if the system is a way to make elitist members feel self-secure. In that sense, members of almost no value can lower another's to near nill for little reason, and inflict severe emotional pain (as seen by GameMaster and Dylflon). However, if the system's purpose was merely for one member to tell another that he/she did something wrong... then no-one should care how many pips he/she has, as it would mean absolutely nothing. That's not the case though...

I don't care if reputation stays or goes, but I realize that it does not promote intelligence. I've seen fairly intelligent people become immature and have mini emotional breakdowns, therefor lowering their true reputation in my eyes. Reputation is more than a few pips, it's how much the crowd likes you. Reputation can never be measured accurately in a freakin' gaming forum!

Still fun to screw with though.
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Old 10-10-2003, 03:12 PM   #8
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Rep is only an illusion to feel self-security. By getting good feedback from members, one feels wanted. Just because one has a bunch of pips, he/she feels loved.

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Old 10-11-2003, 01:44 AM   #9
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Rep is only an illusion to feel self-security. By getting good feedback from members, one feels wanted. Just because one has a bunch of pips, he/she feels loved. Oh yes, you - Dyne - should know what I'm taking about. It's the same reason you make banners for other newbies in bulk. You want your influence spread, and you enjoy pleasing others with your talents (not necessarily a bad thing).

Trying to give the excuse that rep is a way of telling people they are "dumbasses" is ridiculous, in my opinion. It's much more public and impossible to hide one's identity if the person plainly state his/her opinion on the board rather than docking the other on reputation.

It's impossible for reputation to be abused, according to what you feel is the system's purpose, Dyne. It can only be abused if the system is a way to make elitist members feel self-secure. In that sense, members of almost no value can lower another's to near nill for little reason, and inflict severe emotional pain (as seen by GameMaster and Dylflon). However, if the system's purpose was merely for one member to tell another that he/she did something wrong... then no-one should care how many pips he/she has, as it would mean absolutely nothing. That's not the case though...

I don't care if reputation stays or goes, but I realize that it does not promote intelligence. I've seen fairly intelligent people become immature and have mini emotional breakdowns, therefor lowering their true reputation in my eyes. Reputation is more than a few pips, it's how much the crowd likes you. Reputation can never be measured accurately in a freakin' gaming forum!

Still fun to screw with though.
I knew I went against your grain beliefs, but you don't have to metaphorically poke me in the eye.

We're a reputational notch above Gamefaqs. What we're not is a "Freakin' gaming forum". I've been to a lot worse; I've moderated a lot worse. I can tell we have got some literate people here, and we shouldn't go to waste as "just another freaking gaming forum". With that kind of mentality, we could drive ourselves into the ground.

Reputation or not.. the hack has potential, but obviously not here. Screw it if you want. Don't accuse me over it because I said it could happen. It's better than nothing... and a fun feature, like you said. And again, still in beta stage. Neo edited it from it's first form, it can be edited once more--or taken out, as it's wished. Existentially, I'm still going to create sigs and craft posts the same way I always have, with tons of room for improvement, obviously.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: New Forum
Old 10-10-2003, 05:57 PM   #10
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I like the style, but it is too dark overall, and it is very difficult to read much of anything. I would recommend getting a brighter color for the text, like white or something really close.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that I did change the font. It's been beige for a long time now in the real forum. It looks much better. There are other add-ons as well in the real forum, but the test one looks similar.

Thanks.
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Old 10-10-2003, 09:17 PM   #11
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I think the beta skin is looking pretty good.

The only thing that needs to be fixed is the buttons. And also whether we should use arial or verdana.
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Old 10-11-2003, 12:12 PM   #12
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I just found this thread, and checked out the "Child of Gekko" color scheme. All I can say is wow. This is what GameTavern was meant to look like.
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Old 10-09-2003, 11:23 PM   #13
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It shows nothing. It doesnt promote intelligence, it promotes misbehaviour and abuse, and it causes annoyance.

People with high rep have a high post count. It doesnt mean a damn thing.
Agreed.

But the high reputation/high post count relation exists only because we converted our doubloon savings so that people didn't feel completely ripped off earning all those doubloons for nothing.

But the staff didn't have doubloon accounts so how they automatically received 10-11 reputation pips is beyond me?
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Old 10-10-2003, 01:21 AM   #14
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It shows nothing. It doesnt promote intelligence, it promotes misbehaviour and abuse, and it causes annoyance.

People with high rep have a high post count. It doesnt mean a damn thing.
... When you are abused. I give negative reputation to people who are dumbasses. It does not work on a large scale, but with the right scaling, it will work. And unsyncing post count could be a good idea, too.

This is VB3 beta for a reason. You can not expect anything to be perfect.
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Old 10-10-2003, 09:21 AM   #15
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Well rep is still pointless. Who really cares about it? Not me. We don't even need any more of this rep/dbln crap, it's just another way to seperate yourself from others, which isn't good.
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