The NFL Thread 03-04

Bond · 09-22-2003, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Is that Al Harris? I'm an Eagles fan (sadly), and I know first hand that Al Harris is a walking 15 yard penalty.

I don't think he'd had a penalty up until this point. But it really wasn't his fault, just an awful call.

mickydaniels · 09-23-2003, 10:30 AM

An amazing beatdown of the raiders last night. The only team they've beaten since the Super Bowl and even preseason has been the BEngals. However, I do not thibk they'll saty down. They'll win as soon as Jerry POrter comes back but I doubt they're still a playoff team.

Power Rankings:

1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Indianapolis Colts
3. Tampa Bay Bucs
4. Seattle Seahawks
5. Minnesota Vikings

Honorable mention: Buffalo, Miami, Denver

Denver gets into the top 5 when they actually beat somebody like the Chiefs on October 5. The next day, is also an even better matchup with Dungy hopefully schooling his former team on a Monday night for everyone to see.

Perfect Stu · 09-23-2003, 03:26 PM

STU's Power Rankings

1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3. Indianapolis Colts
4. Denver Broncos
5. Buffalo Bills
6. Seattle Seahawks
7. Tennessee Titans
8. Carolina Panthers
9. Miami Dolphins
10. Minnessota Vikings

Stonecutter · 09-23-2003, 07:17 PM

Wow, well, get one thing clear, we DID NOT witness Jake Plummer's coming out party last night, we're watching the fall of the Oakland Empire. And what a fun fall it will be.

That being said, here they are.

Stonecutter's Week 3 Powah Rankings
1) Kansas City - How can they NOT be the #1 team, my god, they're the new Rams
2) Tampa Bay - Rollin Rollin Rollin, keep them doggies rollin
3) Giants - Just you wait. That was one hell of a win on sunday, going on the road after a monday night game is usually a formula for a loss, that was impressive
4) Pittsburgh - Best reciving corps in the league, just keep Maddox healty and the D will do the rest
5) Seattle - Holy Crap, never in a million years did I think they could beat the Marc Bulger led Rams, and they did, my hat goes off to you
6) Tennessee - Stomped the saints
7) Miami - I hate the fins, but they put buffalo in their place

With a good showing next week, Indy makes it at 8, but I still need some convincing. Ditto Denver.

Minnesota doesn't make the list because they've played Chicago, Green Bay and Detroit
Green Bay drops off - Too old, stick a fork in them, but they still stomp my bears

Criticize me for keeping 2 3 and 0 teams off the list, but remember, arizona started 4 and 1 last year.

Perfect Stu · 09-23-2003, 10:16 PM

Tennessee > Indy? Would you mind explaining that?

Tennessee barely beat the 'falling Oakland Empire', and then got blown out by the Colts.

Stonecutter · 09-24-2003, 03:02 AM

I've seen two of their three games (indy and ten) and I just don't believe that the colts are a better team, nor do I believe that week 2 was indicative of either teams true colors. The Colts may be playing better right now, but I figure the Titans to at least play in the AFC championship game, if not win the AFC, I'd be surprised if the Colts win a playoff game and I wouldn't be surprised if they fail to make the playoffs at all.

I know I'm going to get slammed for this next one but here goes.

Payton Manning is the best pure passer in the NFL, but just like the old Elway/Marino argument, McNair's lesser talent doesn't mean he's not the better quarterback. I'd love to see who would put up better numbers if Harrison were on the Titans. The colts obviously have better receivers. James/George is fairly even as far as I'm concerned, for long term James has taken less punishment but for one season (this season) I'd rather have Eddie George. As for the D's, the Titans are still way better at stopping the run than the colts.

The Titans probably don't have the talent to match up against the colts, but they're a better all around team. They're this year's Oakland, old, and they realize the window is closing fast.

Most importantly, we're not going to know who's really better until week 6 or 7. The NFL is so finicky right now that chances are, one of the 3-0 teams will be written off by week 8 and one of the 0-3 teams will be considered playoff contenders. Right now, I'll take the Titans.

You may wonder how I justify having Miami ahead of the colts too, here's how: Wanny is the dumbest coach/manager in pro sports, bar none. Watch them start 7 and 1 and finish 9 and 7 but with that talent they should be able to will themselves into the playoffs and maybe beyond. Rickey Williams and the D are too good to be playing golf in January.

Perfect Stu · 09-24-2003, 06:45 PM

Ah, Alright. So you're not really basing your rankings off of the play of each team this year necessarily...just your view of the team and its potential?

mickydaniels · 09-24-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

I know I'm going to get slammed for this next one but here goes.

The Titans probably don't have the talent to match up against the colts, but they're a better all around team. They're this year's Oakland, old, and they realize the window is closing fast.

Simply, if the Titans were a better all around team, they would be losing to a team they are better than by a 33-7 margin.

And as for rankings measuring a team's potential, that doesn't make too much sense to me. Who's to say this team or that team won't suffer some crazy injury or injuries that ultimately hurt the team. That's why you just have to go by what's going on now.

As Bill Parcells used to say, "You are what your record says you are."
And it says the Colts are better than the Titans.