New EGM Scores

[Stonecutter]

Lack of improvment?

Playbooks: Improved
Graphics: Improved
Blitzing: Improved (actually possible)
Passing game: Improved
Physics: Improved

Not to mention it's more realistic in general.

[BreakABone]

I really don't like how egm only did one review for SC2.

What you mean one review? They compared all 3 versions, gave the editor's thoughts on which of the 3 was better and just did one giant review instead of 3 single page reviews.

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

What you mean one review? They compared all 3 versions, gave the editor's thoughts on which of the 3 was better and just did one giant review instead of 3 single page reviews.

Yeah, but we only got one set of scores. No where did they mention that they would have given all three the same score, we just kind of have to assume that they did.

Seeing as how the PS2 version actually has slowdown, has poorer graphics, and has longer load times, I really don't think it deserves the same score as the xbox and gcn versions.

[TheGame]

lmao... Madden sucks? Yet it's still better than NFL 2k

As for stonecutter's comments... why don't they improve things that really matter? I mean, people already like the gameplay, so how about adding some new features? (I mean, besides a stupid idea like first person mode)

If those improvements meant so much, why didn't the game's score improve?

But whatever... No need to fight anymore, I can do like gekko used to do and hide behind the scores

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by TheGame

lmao... Madden sucks? Yet it's still better than NFL 2k

As for stonecutter's comments... why don't they improve things that really matter? I mean, people already like the gameplay, so how about adding some new features? (I mean, besides a stupid idea like first person mode)

If those improvements meant so much, why didn't the game's score improve?

But whatever... No need to fight anymore, I can do like gekko used to do and hide behind the scores

Those improvements do mean a lot.

The three biggest complaints I heard about 2k3 were.

Too hard to blitz
Can't hide plays/bad playbook

and by far the most heard complaint was

Recievers drop too many passes

All three have been fixed.

And the interface is much better (so I hear)

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

Those improvements do mean a lot.

The three biggest complaints I heard about 2k3 were.

Too hard to blitz
Can't hide plays/bad playbook

and by far the most heard complaint was

Recievers drop too many passes

All three have been fixed.

And the interface is much better (so I hear)

lol, um, and why did the scores get worse?

Ok, w/o bringing up the scores... those things should have been fixed years ago. There is nothing cool about a new feature that everybody saw coming 3 years ago.. and gave up hope last year on. Where is the selling point in these features?

Madden, on the other hand, has EA Sports Bio now (unlock teams cheats and extras by playing other EA games), and added to thier already fantastic franchise mode owners mode. Not to menton there is now online tourneys... I can see the selling point there crystal clear. It gives a Madden 2003 fan more than enough reasons to get 2004. Not only that, it gives fans of NCAA football, NBA Live, and NHL 200x a reason to buy Madden over NFL 2k.

Also, there are nice gameplay changes, like how the camera moves when you do a fake handoff to keep the defence on thier toes. But that gets over shadowed by the off-the field features.

"And the interface is much better (so I hear)"

How could it get any worse? Compared to Madden the overall presentation of the game sucks. It lives up to it's "ESPN" licence's history.

I could go on and on and on why I think NFL 2k is worse... but I never really had scores to back me up. Oh well, this time I do, and I have a feeling that I will continue having them backing Madden up.

Sega makes improvements every year, but not near on the scale of EA's improvements. Hell, at this point if I was the CEO at Visual Concepts, I'd start stealing EA's ideas.