Getting a Mac Laptop

Yoda9864 · 06-30-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko

Doesn't surprise me. My 2.53ghz P4 seems to run at the same speed, and occasionally slower than my 733mhz G4. The P4 is a more powerful machine, but doesn't seem to run any faster. Don't know the cause of it. Adds a lot of life to the computer though.

I'm just curious, are we talking speed during games, or during Word, Excel, file searching, etc.?

gekko · 06-30-2003, 08:14 PM

Pretty much everything but games. I don't play games on my Mac. The P4 would blow it away in games, as it should with a faster processor, bus, and better video card. But I was referring to everything but games.

Yoda9864 · 06-30-2003, 08:21 PM

Ok, that's what I figured. That's the main reason I like PC's better than Mac's, gaming. Other than that and price, I guess I really don't have anything against Macs. And I have to say that I like video editing on Macs.

Kitana85 · 06-30-2003, 09:12 PM

I'm glad everyone is so ummm, interested in this thread, but um, could people please tone it down a bit, no bashing etc. I really don't want to have to close this thread, people, PLEASE calm down.

Thank you, and good night.

Null · 06-30-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitana85

I'm glad everyone is so ummm, interested in this thread, but um, could people please tone it down a bit, no bashing etc. I really don't want to have to close this thread, people, PLEASE calm down.

Thank you, and good night.

must be boring being mod of this section.... lol. you look like your trying to find a place to assert power. :P

not sure what your speaking of tho. aside from one post. which was taken care of a while ago.

the descussion is going quite nicely.

Bond · 06-30-2003, 09:25 PM

Yes, this discussion has actually been going much better than the past few we've had in recent days.

Stonecutter · 06-30-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko

Pretty much everything but games. I don't play games on my Mac. The P4 would blow it away in games, as it should with a faster processor, bus, and better video card. But I was referring to everything but games.

People who have actually bothered to run the benchmarks would disagree.

Yoda9864 · 06-30-2003, 11:32 PM

Good God, the Mac got slaughtered. Has anyone else done a duel like this? I don't like trusting just one site.

Stonecutter · 07-01-2003, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda9864

Good God, the Mac got slaughtered. Has anyone else done a duel like this? I don't like trusting just one site.

This is about a month old, but they're testing similar machines.

http://www.barefeats.com/pentium4.html

That's a pro-mac site and one of the pcs wins all but one of the benchmarks (they test a P4 and a xeon.)

http://www.macmusic.org/news/viewnew...RmtQjpAznOhM=1

These are mac enthusiasts slamming Jobbs & Co. for their questionable at best standards when they put the G5 against the top P4 at WWDC.

http://www.macobserver.com/columns/d...20030509.shtml
http://pcbuyersguide.com/software/sy...enchmarks.html

Edit: sorry if the order is a little confusing. All of those are good pc v mac stories.

Yoda9864 · 07-01-2003, 12:35 AM

Wait a minute, so Jobs tried to compare the two systems using different programs on each comp? What the hell is he smoking?

Stonecutter · 07-01-2003, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda9864

Wait a minute, so Jobs tried to compare the two systems using different programs on each comp? What the hell is he smoking?

Perhaps it's the "We can't win in a fair fight" bong.

He's certianly not alone. If you don't think ATI AND Nvidia aren't skewing their benchmarks in their favor I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.

gekko · 07-01-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

People who have actually bothered to run the benchmarks would disagree.

Good for them. You haven't used either system, so you wouldn't know, would you?

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

These are mac enthusiasts slamming Jobbs & Co. for their questionable at best standards when they put the G5 against the top P4 at WWDC.

Wow, a shock to you? Maybe you should spend less time trying to learn from fanboy flame wars and spend some time with the Mac community. Mac fans are very critical of Apple, much in the same way Nintendo fans can be fed perfection and they still complain. Apple fans always have, and always will be critical of whatever Apple does. You would know that if you visited Mac sites.

If you want some real information, take it from someone who actually knows about the tests, and not some PC fanboy pulling **** out of their ass.

http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl...id=126&tid=181

Stonecutter, until you actually own and use a Mac in the same way you use your PC, you can't accuratly compare Macs and PCs. So until that time comes, you have no first hand knowledge and everything you say is nothing but regergetated bull**** from someone else's mouth. You've established your identity as an PC fanboy who finds happiness in life by winning PC vs. Mac debates. If you actually used both platforms and like the PC better, I would respect you and value your opinion. Until that time, your opinion is worthless, and I'm not going to waste my time with someone who is not educated on the subject and enjoys flamewars.

So continue trying to brainwash people like Yoda, they'll believe everything you say. I don't plan on stopping the spread of communism. But until you actually educate yourself on the Mac platform, I'm not going to waste my time debating with you. It'll just be interesting to see how many people actually believe you.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 07-01-2003, 02:02 PM

mmmmm.... hard to fight the PC side is

*sry yoda, i just had to say that

Stonecutter · 07-01-2003, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko

If you want some real information, take it from someone who actually knows about the tests, and not some PC fanboy pulling **** out of their ass.

http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl...id=126&tid=181

So we should listen to the largest, most notorious anti-microsoft website on the net.

In an article written with all relevant information being given by an apple employee no less.

Right.

Not to mention the fact that they're trying to prove that the G5, a computer with technology two months ahead of the current intel is the better machine. Again, I should hope it is. The G5 should be whipping the P4 right now, though it's advantages would be marginal at best and non-existent at worse.

Not to mention the price, which you still have no answer for.

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Stonecutter, until you actually own and use a Mac in the same way you use your PC, you can't accuratly compare Macs and PCs. So until that time comes, you have no first hand knowledge and everything you say is nothing but regergetated bull**** from someone else's mouth. You've established your identity as an PC fanboy who finds happiness in life by winning PC vs. Mac debates. If you actually used both platforms and like the PC better, I would respect you and value your opinion. Until that time, your opinion is worthless, and I'm not going to waste my time with someone who is not educated on the subject and enjoys flamewars.

So continue trying to brainwash people like Yoda, they'll believe everything you say. I don't plan on stopping the spread of communism. But until you actually educate yourself on the Mac platform, I'm not going to waste my time debating with you. It'll just be interesting to see how many people actually believe you.

So... basicly, what you're saying is. "I like the mac better and everyone who dosen't agree is a pc fanboy/moron. I don't have any numbers to back it up, but don't pay any attention to his numbers because..."

Where I'm saying the PC is better and I have the numbers to back it up.

I've taken the time to read the specs, to look at the prices to look at the software.

But I'm not educated on the subject because I haven't used it myself.

Interesting. I'd think that lack of first hand education would take about 90% of everything everyone learns in school and throw it out the window. That stance is the same kind of arrogance that professional atheletes show when they attack the media for "never having played the game." It doesn't work. Your only arguement so far is "I like them better."

It will be far more interesting to see how many people believe you, because you have no information to believe. Only your opinion that the mac is better. Despite the facts which tend to show the opposite.

I believe it's around 96% of the computer market that tends to agree with me.

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Stonecutter, until you actually own and use a Mac in the same way you use your PC, you can't accuratly compare Macs and PCs.

Actually, I used macs for two years in grade school before my school got some donated pcs. I have no idea what we were using (on either the pc or the mac front) but because we were so short on funds I can almost guarantee that the macs we owned were still better (specs wise) than the piecemeal pcs we were given and I have preferred the pc since that time. I will admit that even now the majority of the machines in that school are P2s meaning the mac/pc experience I have is a war that was fought many years past but I did make a mac pc decision. At the time I didn't know there was actually a difference. It was one computer that I liked a whole lot better than the other one.