Updated Console Worldwide Sales Numbers

[Joeiss]

Because we're number 1! oh yeah...

[One Winged Angel]

That is such utter bull****. The 9.5 million Gamecube sold was from last March. The XBox consoles it has said sold 13 million BY JUNE.

So basically they game Nintendo the unfair advantage in these polls.

[BreakABone]

This reminds me of that one time in band camp

I've never actually seen the appeal in sales number, the only real time I bother with them is when companys try something to peak sales to see if it works or not. Other than that, what's the point?

[Stonecutter]

You are so full of $hit it is coming out of your ears

I'm going to break this down real fine for everyone.

Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

Please tell me how Nintendo lost 100k units globally... in two months.

Of course nintendo could have gained 500k - 1.5 million from march to may. Had you have known that the numbers were from march, there would be no reason to make that statement. But because you just had to go and attack egm for DARING to suggest that your beloved nintendo just might be in third place you ran into the situation head long, you stupid fanboy.

Nowhere in your post did you recognize the fact that the numbers, in EGM, were from March.

You did not read that, and because you didn't you're a dumbass. That's is the only thing I've been trying to prove since I've started talking to you in this thread. I could really care less where the xbox stands in relation to the cube because I own both. But when cube fanboys, (or any fanboys) and going further than that dumbass cube fanboys, feel the need to spread your propaganda of the insecure around, you piss a lot of people off.

You also took far more offense (a lot) to my post than anyone else (none) which was completely unwarranted.


YOU DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE FROM MARCH.

Plus, Nintendo announced that it sold 9.5 million (when they reported the console was just 500k shy of their goal), way back in March.

And I told you that those numbers were from march. You didn't know it at the time, but now you're twisting your original statement.

Maybe you would just admit that you didn't read the original post and that you were just being a total moronic fanboy, but chances are you won't.

Such is the nature of the fanboy, but you're also a dumbass, who doesn't know when he's beaten.

I look forward to watching you attempt to writhe your way out of this one.

Or, perhaps, like the cockroach who has been exposed to the light, you will scatter, back to your hole.

[Shadow Fox]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

Of course nintendo could have gained 500k - 1.5 million from march to may. Had you have known that the numbers were from march, there would be no reason to make that statement. But because you just had to go and attack egm for DARING to suggest that your beloved nintendo just might be in third place you ran into the situation head long, you stupid fanboy.

Either your are VERY BAD at math, or you're just fine and dandy with looking completely moronic here.

You just quoted me for saying Nintendo lost 100k in 2 months, according to EGM. Then I guess you're right- Nintendo instead lost 100k in THE SAME DAY (since EGM claims 100k is missing at 9.4, while the LINKS I POSTED proved 9.5 million on the same day (3/31).

Nowhere in your post did you recognize the fact that the numbers, in EGM, were from March.

And I didn't have to, since that's a given. Didn't I TELL you I've read the article before this thread was created, and emailed EGM about it (both for Nintendo's numbers being 9.5 instead of 9.4 in March, as well as MS being 8.3 in March instead of 13)?

But anyways, I spoke on this lightly in my first post- you just didn't read it (or didn't want to, since it completely voids your entire attempts of denouncing me in any way).

That's what I said in my original post here. I suggest you read it AGAIN, instead of trying to ASSUME I misread ANYTHING, especially if you can't prove it.

You did not read that, and because you didn't you're a dumbass. That's is the only thing I've been trying to prove since I've started talking to you in this thread.

Read above; your "proving" is pointless, as I've read, and have known the numbers from EGM were from March (as I've stated countless times in this thread now). If you don't see them littered about, then good for you- you're officially blind.

I could really care less where the xbox stands in relation to the cube because I own both.

And since I care about the TRUTH being displayed (the numbers being VERY CONTRADICTORY), and owning PS2, GCN, and Xbox, that makes me worse somehow? I doubt it.

But when cube fanboys, (or any fanboys) and going further than that dumbass cube fanboys, feel the need to spread your propaganda of the insecure around, you piss a lot of people off.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the worst fanboy of all- the anti-logic fanboy...

And telling the truth is propaganda now? I've never seen "truth" and "propaganda" anywhere related in any thesaurus to-date, but I'm sure you'll come up with proof of that, right?

You also took far more offense (a lot) to my post than anyone else (none) which was completely unwarranted.

And this is your REAL point of your post; that someone busted your ass by telling the truth (and actually spoke on being called a "dumbass"), you feel that you have to mix it up with me, somehow.

Point being, EGM's numbers (even according to your pic you posted), ARE NOT from March (even though EGM stated so, which is a typo; also stated in my original post that you missread). I wasn't thinking MS went from 8.3 to 13 at any point in time, nor did I ever deem a mag that admits constant mistakes every issue's contents as the word of God. You are incorrect on these things, and if you want to be right, then find some proof.

I've posted countless amounts of proof (in the form of links) that MS and EGM's estimates are very contradictory to earlier and recent claims in terms of console sales. Surely you can do the same in a logical manner, instead of having a pissy attitude and whinning about how you THINK I missread something.

And I told you that those numbers were from march.

YOU didn't say anything to me before I made my first post, now did you? "March" is stated in my first post here, so how could you tell me anything, or think that I missread it if I posted it in the first damn place?

You didn't know it at the time, but now you're twisting your original statement.

Like I said, find some proof. My first post was talking about March (in my post saying that Nintendo's numbers were 9.5 in March, and NOT 9.4 like EGM claims). Stop being so damn thick and read for once.

Maybe you would just admit that you didn't read the original post

The original post was from Bond (since he started the thread), and not YOU. Your original post was a quote of Gekko, who was mentioning the same inconsistencies that I proved with links in EGM's "numbers". All you did then was say that we were "dumbasses" and "can't read", while you missread our posts in the first place, which was talking about Nintendo CLAIMING #2 back then in March, as well as at E3- directly contradicting 13 million for Xbox in that timespan, if it were true.

YOU were the one missreading in the first place here, not anyone else.

and that you were just being a total moronic fanboy, but chances are you won't.

Will you admit that you are idiotic for not seeing what Bond and everyone else here has noticed (i.e. Nintendo and MS's numbers are not accurate in the mag), and that I've posted ABOUT EGM's MARCH numbers (and their contradiction) in my FIRST POST in this thread?

Such is the nature of the fanboy, but you're also a dumbass, who doesn't know when he's beaten.

OH, so that's what fanboy means now...

OK, when if I'm indeed "the person who went against EGM's claims that you STILL don't comprehend, and therefore you try to ASSUME I missread something" then sure I'm a fanboy, if that's the current definition in your mind.

And if you also mean "guy that has owned and played on hundreds of different types of hardware over the years", then that would also be OK.

I look forward to watching you attempt to writhe your way out of this one.

Out of what? That I'm talking about what is right (even your OWN PIC disproves EGM's claims), or that you THINK I assumed something and can't prove it?

I'm afraid there's nothing to wiggle out of my friend. Now you on the other hand...

Or, perhaps, like the cockroach who has been exposed to the light, you will scatter, back to your hole.

Sounds like you need to learn when to use semicolons, but I'm just being picky for the hell of it now...

Oh dear, yet ANOTHER person assumes I'm a fanboy, just because I don't agree with him. Isn't this familiar Xantar and BaB??

-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...

[Bond]

I would reply to all of these posts, but it would result in absolutely nothing considering everyone's mind is already set on the issue and there really isn't anything to debate.

Lets' just wait and see.

[Shadow Fox]

For the sake of your ignorance, Stonecutter, I'll point out my ENTIRE POST below:

Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

I can't help but think EGM is totally wrong on this info. They list no sources whatsoever, and, (being a post-E3 issue), this basically says that Nintendo lied, and that they haven't sold well over 10 million cubes by now, with Xbox at 9.

This IS a post- E3 issue (where Nintendo claimed #2 with only 10 million sold). If MS sold 13 million in March, then Nintendo lied. Point and case 1.

Now, I for one (knowing MS's aggressive PR) NEVER heard a peep of MS claiming otherwise, even at E3 after NCL threw their "we're number 2" chants. Ed Fries WOULD NOT let this carry on if it were false, IMO.

Again touching on the validity of 13 million being sold in March, if ever. Nintendo wouldn't have foolishly claimed they sold more than 13 with only 10 million (since, logically speaking, 10 is LESS than 13). Microsoft would have also said Nintendo was lying, and would have claimed #2 worldwide to negate this (as they have with Austrailia, and UK for a week or two). Point and case 2.

Plus, Nintendo announced that it sold 9.5 million (when they reported the console was just 500k shy of their goal), way back in March.

Directly saying that EGM's numbers were wrong for MARCH (they claimed 9.4, which is incorrect according to other sources that say 9.5, as listed and linked at the end of the post). Point and case 3.

Please tell me how Nintendo lost 100k units globally

THIS is VERY IMPORTANT- this is the part of my post you either overlooked, or had no clue as to what it meant.

I'm implying here that EGM is TAKING away 100k of unit sales from what Nintendo officially stated on 3/31 (9.4 vs 9.5). I DID NOT MISSREAD when the numbers were posted; I QUESTIONED the number itself, since Nintendo claimed otherwise in the same timeframe. These number negate each other for this timeframe.

and how MS gained 5 million Xbox sales in two months (MS claimed 8.3 million in March).

And here I'm proving that Xbox in no way could sell thru it's projected 8 million (from January) and have 13 in then end of March, especially when MS themselves still claim recently that they plan to sell their 9 millionth unit by July, and that they claimed 8.3 million in March, NOT 13 million, as stated by the links below:

Relevant links:

Nintendo's numbers
Microsoft's numbers (fiscal failure)
Microsoft's numbers

List of PROOF that EGM's numbers contradict others.

Please think about this; I've already contacted EGM about this potential error.

My saying IN THE FIRST PLACE that I've already contacted EGM, who just recently sent me a nice vague reply that my "comments will be heard" (the same crap auto-replies Nintendo and MS give you for email).

That's my ENTIRE post. You kept talking about it, so I put it out in the open, fact per fact.

-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...

[Xantar]

Stonecutter, seriously now, this is getting ridiculous. By your own admission, you've been devoting all these long, detailed posts not to proving that a particular company is in second place, not to arguing about the credibility of any particular sources and not even, in fact, to anything remotely related to the topic at hand.

According to you, you've spent all this time and energy trying to prove that Shadow Fox didn't read the topic post correctly. Do you realize how absurd it is to write this much trying to prove that at one point, somebody didn't understand something that clearly everybody (including him) understands now? Would you care to guess why nobody has jumped in to take one side or the other? If you guessed that nobody cares, you would be correct. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it turns out that Shadow Fox did indeed misread something, and it wouldn't bother me if he actually did read the original article correctly. He obviously gets it now whatever he understood back then. Everybody else seems to be willing to let it be. Why can't you?

The only thing you're managing to accomplish with all this vitriol is to make yourself look petty, whiny and immature. Only a 12 year old tries to make his point by increasing the size of his words. The kind of insult-laden attacks you've been so liberally employing are the kind that you should have left behind in fifth grade.

For your own sake and before you somehow manage to damage your reputation any more, just let it lie.

[Stonecutter]

YOU'RE LYING. STOP LYING!

[GameKinG]

Forget fanboy crap. These sales are wrong. Im not saying I know whats right, but this report is putting up a pretty much impossable scenario, especialy when you compare it to fiscal results. And Im pretty sure its illegal to lie on fiscal reports cause then you are misleading investors.

Anyways, these topics dont matter. At the end of the thread nobody is proven right, and those who think they have proven themseleves right are **** heads.

[ominub]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Why are people still buying PS2's? (This is not a fanboy question, its just a simple question). I swear every Japanese Kid and Parent has to own one by now. If not at least 2.

tries to give you -1 rep but cant tries again but cant

oh well PS2 has 5 more times the sells than GC and thats good enough for me

[Rndm_Perfection]

Originally Posted by ominub

tries to give you -1 rep but cant tries again but cant

oh well PS2 has 5 more times the sells than GC and thats good enough for me

Stoney C. is it just me or is Ominub familiar?

[One Winged Angel]

He was kind of stating it as a joke.

They buy it because it's the best system out there.

and that's not fanboyish?

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Stoney C. is it just me or is Ominub familiar?

Yes...... a little too familiar if you ask me.

****, what was that IP address.........

[ominub]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

Yes...... a little too familiar if you ask me.

****, what was that IP address.........

what are you guys talking about now im confused