Bush has done it again - Page 4

gekko · 02-10-2002, 07:14 PM

So if I said a bannana was like a post-it note, would you immediatly bitch becuase one is food and one is paper, or would you finish reading the post where i state they're similar because they're both yellow?

Reading through these posts, it seems very evident that you can't comprehend jack ****.

Gekko: Bush and Hitler both preach nationalism
Miscx: WTF? Bush didn't try to wipe out an entire race!

And I'm talking some books with facts, where you can gain intelligence. Reading "See Spot Run" won't help much in these debates.

MiscX · 02-10-2002, 07:44 PM

lol i'm sorry that was the stupidest post i've ever seen, gekko.

i told you a book that i've read which would give insight on a social discussion like this, and then you say i'm talking about "see spot run." haha, oh, i get it, you're trying to be clever. well, you failed quite miserably. the sad thing is you would say that a post-it note and a banana are similar because they're both yellow, and I would say that even though they are yellow there's way too many differences to even call them similar or compare them. just like you comparing bush to hitler. maybe they both preach nationalism, but I'm saying the differences are so huge between those two that saying they're similar is folly.

talk about not finishing reading a post....

ibrox fox... there's a difference between hypocrisy and what I'm doing... and the fact is i'm defending myself because gekko attacked me after running out of intelligent things to say... which was immediately.

what makes me ignorant, by the way? i'd like you to back that up, because without being able to explain WHY i'm ignorant, it just makes YOU ignorant of WHY i'm ignorant.

nd finally, let me ask you what relevance my nationality has to do with this discussion....

Polaris · 02-10-2002, 07:49 PM

I have a feeling though that the general hatred for bush on this board has nothing to do with his actions but rather that hes a republican. Be honest now, I mean hes not your guy now is he? So of course everything he does is irrelevant to you. We can find something wrong with any situation if we look at it right. Good and Bad, Right and Wrong, its all perception.

About the Taliban, we funded them so we wouldnt have to fight the soviets ourselves...stop the spread of communism and all that, or atleast try to. At the time it was a relevant reason to fund them. So I figure funding a stupid little faction is a lot better than causing a world war (by sending troops there) or by doing nothing at all or trying to whine at them in the UN. Looking back its easy to say they were wrong but at the time it was the best solution. With countries like Iran and Iraq though its pretty bothersome that we dealt with them. They serve no purpose and you can say we were morons for funding Iraq and Iran.

Ravishing Rick Rude · 02-10-2002, 07:54 PM

Explain to you why you are ignorant?, because your attitude towards gekko was far more childish then you had accused his of being towards you.

I am sorry to burst your bubble but you aren't as intelligent as you let on. Merely because you claim to have read books and you CLAIM to be more intelligent then him, doesn't make you any smarter.

Your " I am better then you" attitude is not going to fly with me, regardless of how much you try to put your self above everyone else.

"i'll wager anything you want that i am MUCH more educated that you are, gekko"

There is a very fine line between Arrogance and ignorance, you have clearly passed it in this quote.

"one of the books i've read would be "mein kampf" for your information. you DO know who wrote that, don't you"

Wow, do you feel special that you read a book written by Hitler? I myself have never read that book, i never have any intention to, does this make me less informed?

No, that book is writted solely on his opinion of the actions following the first world war.

now i don't want to get into a war of words with you over nothing, but nationality has alot to do with it.

There is quite a difference between reading about, and living in the aftermath of the war.

Where i was born my parents and alot of there Friends are still in financial trouble because of the War.

Yugi Starwind · 02-10-2002, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Shooter

Hitler.

Ditto!

GameKinG · 02-10-2002, 08:00 PM

The only thing that scares me about any president of US is they are the most powerful person in the world...Next to congress.

Polaris · 02-10-2002, 08:16 PM

Ibron Fox: where would you happen to be born? You could possibly blame the war for italy or greece's monetary situations, I have never been to either so that makes it impossible for me to start on these countries, however if it would be france england or germany id say the financial trouble created by the 2nd world war were delt with long ago and the issues spured by the cold war are more evident. My few family members in what used to be eastern germany are having issues with that somewhat, it was worse during the unification.

miscX's responses havent been the most mature, understanding mein kamf is an important part of understanding hitler and all that jazz. he very well could be more inteligent than gekko however has proven very self righteous and that sort of screws his points. the same goes for gekko in a sense too, both sides are self righteous about there beliefs. its the age old war of us versus them...be it middle class versus upper, liberal versus conservative, black versus white, axis versus allies (awesome board game btw), it will always exist. i mean we could always just say hey good debate, close the thread and forget about this crap. lets look at the good side for a bit shall we, we live in a country that has a network of machines in which we can discuss (or blatantly slam) ideas freely and really not have a care. in my mind thats totally badass. there will be something wrong with every president we ever have, its because there human, each person has all there own quirks and what not to there personality which inhibits them from acting in a way that is just to all people. if gore won all of the conservatives would be bashing how he would be handling the war. nothing is ever justified when its mainly influenced by the thought process of one man or a small group of when its suposed to represent the will of 200 million plus. so in the end i would much rather have seen UN action..the UN always seems to be a bit more unbiased with action

Ravishing Rick Rude · 02-10-2002, 08:20 PM

So you say the financial issues caused by the war are solved in france?

Think again man, some businesses were completely destroyed, and owners killed ( My grandfather) and only now is my family getting better financially, some of my mates haven't found a " Cure" for there depression financially

MiscX · 02-10-2002, 10:16 PM

i realize that I have come off as self-righteous so I'm sorry for that... gekko's attacking me rather than debating with me kinda put me off the edge because his attitude works against how a board should operate. sure, that's no excuse, but that's my reasoning.

reading "mein kampf" is important, by the way, for obviously having read it would give me a lot more insight into Hitler (the person we have been discussing).

also, the financial issues caused by the war were never "solved" anywhere, but that's to be expected. in theory, the countries of europe are so amassed in debt and war reparations that they could never pull out of it, but of course 'arrangements' were made to help that...

however, just to make a point, your assumptions about my intelligence are just that -- assumptions. there's no way you can say I'm not as smart as I "think" I am because i could possibly be MUCH smarter than I think I am... we'll never know. intelligence is based on a scale that is formed by each person individually...

no, i don't feel special for reading a book by hitler. however, it DOES make you less informed when you are discussing hitler and I have read a book written by him and you haven't. That much is obvious. anyway, my mentioning the book in the first place was in response to gekko's unfounded accusations that I'm uneducated.

I don't see how I was being more childish than him... he's the one who stooped to say that I was uneducated in the first place.

Polaris · 02-11-2002, 02:15 AM

Fox: Im sorry if I affended you, yes things arent completely fixed you could say but thats the nature of war. No one can bring back my mom's mom's home town (my grandmother), which at the moment is just a grassy knowl with a half standing church steaple. soviet soldiers raped one of her sisters, and various other family members. however from what ive seen in france and germany recently everything appears to be quite dandy, im not talking about the general tourists areas...those always look great but places people i know live in. however the partly socialist nature of france might be curbing there growth a bit. the trick is at this point though is for everyone to be smart and to hold back the forces of war so that we or those that come after us dont have to deal with the financial ruin of another "great war"

gekko · 02-11-2002, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Polaris
I have a feeling though that the general hatred for bush on this board has nothing to do with his actions but rather that hes a republican. Be honest now, I mean hes not your guy now is he? So of course everything he does is irrelevant to you. We can find something wrong with any situation if we look at it right. Good and Bad, Right and Wrong, its all perception.

Your feeling is dead wrong, at least on my end. I don't follow parties. I personally find them childish, and feel they get in the way. People voting on what their party wants, and not what they want. You think they would be old enough to make their own decisions, but no.

My hatred towards Bush is purely based on his actions, as is my hatred for Clinton.

Ravishing Rick Rude · 02-11-2002, 04:01 PM

It's totally alright Polaris, i can understand what you mean though.

LeonMagnolis · 02-11-2002, 04:28 PM

As unfortunate as it is, Bush has become more then a president, but a spokesman and a symbol of America. And it is at this time that we do need a warhappy leader to keep our country together and to keep it focused on what it needs to be focused on. I honestly shudder to think of what Gore would have done in responce to this whole thing. And although I think bush sucks some wet juicy hairy hardcore goatballs as a president, I honestly don't think that Gore would have done much of a job keeping us together.

Keep in mind that at the WTC, 5000 people died. That's a small town right there. Incase you're wondering, that's alot of people-- one of the people being my grandfather's best friend. So don't go on about how this thing is getting blown out of proportion. If anything, we haven't done enough against the Taliban.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth-- or eight hundred dubloons depending on how you look at it.

In my girlfriend

Leo

LeonMagnolis · 02-11-2002, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
Reading through these posts, it seems very evident that you can't comprehend jack ****.

:: Raises a brow. ::

You mean jack ****, right?

Edit: Ahaha! That was clever. However, these forums have a filter for a reason, so I'm asking you to please not circumvent them like that again.

Carry on.

--Xantar

DeathsHand · 02-11-2002, 04:51 PM

"Keep in mind that at the WTC, 5000 people died."

Actually, I think the numbers sit somewhere around 2,800...

I watch too much MSNBC...

Anyways... Why do you shudder at how gore would have handled it? Y'don't know how he would have handled it cuz... well... we havn't seen how he'd handle it... heh heh...

But I dunno, either way y'gotta walk a fine line or whatever... I think someone pointed this out before though, but like, if you go too far, you risk pissing too much of the world off, but if you don't go far enough, you get the bloodthirsty american people (and it's true

although not everybody is like that) screaming at you for more...

so y'know...