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Mechadragon · 03-23-2003, 12:51 PM

Now I have a question: Why does it seem that it's always an American that accidently kills some of his squadmates. Are we just that stupid or do the Allies do the same thing but its just not reported to American TV?

And I'm not referring to the grenades in the tents. I'm talking about the incidents in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Joeiss · 03-23-2003, 01:42 PM

Two British helicopters crashed into eachother. That was reported.

DeathsHand · 03-23-2003, 01:45 PM

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Two British helicopters crashed into eachother. That was reported.

And the US accidentally shot down a RAF plane with a patriot missle...

Joeiss · 03-23-2003, 03:52 PM

He was wondering about accidents not caused by the American people... So I stated one.

gekko · 03-23-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Mechadragon
Are we just that stupid or do the Allies do the same thing but its just not reported to American TV?

No one's stupid except you. War isn't a game, your teammates and your enemies aren't different colorsk, they don't have a name appearing above their head. You can't possibly expect to know where every single person is aty any given moment. Accidents happen, mechanical problems happen, they always have, and they will for years.

Unless you have only 2 guys fighting back to back, friendly fire is going to happen.

DeathsHand · 03-23-2003, 04:55 PM

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He was wondering about accidents not caused by the American people... So I stated one.

right-o carry on then

Mechadragon · 03-23-2003, 08:41 PM

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No one's stupid except you. War isn't a game, your teammates and your enemies aren't different colorsk, they don't have a name appearing above their head. You can't possibly expect to know where every single person is aty any given moment. Accidents happen, mechanical problems happen, they always have, and they will for years.

Unless you have only 2 guys fighting back to back, friendly fire is going to happen.

I was just saying that it always seems to be us doing the friendly fire.

Professor S · 03-23-2003, 10:21 PM

This is a war. Poeple are going to die. I have 2 friends in the Marine Corps in Iraq right now. One or both could be dead and if I didn't fail the physical (horrifically bad knees) I would be with them most likely. It is a risk that must be taken when committing troops to a conflict. This war is not being fought with paint balls, and sometimes unfortuante things happen when you are fighting for your life.

Casualties are to be expected. Did anyone think we would enter this war and not have any troops die?

Mechadragon · 03-24-2003, 06:27 PM

Ok, I guess I didn't explain myself enough. I figured there would be friendly fire, but the majority of it seems to come from Americans. This may be because the news channels don't report the ones that are caused by other countries, but I'm not sure. So I asked.

Bond · 03-24-2003, 07:33 PM

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Ok, I guess I didn't explain myself enough. I figured there would be friendly fire, but the majority of it seems to come from Americans. This may be because the news channels don't report the ones that are caused by other countries, but I'm not sure. So I asked.

They majority of the troops are Americans.

It's all relative.

Mechadragon · 03-24-2003, 10:33 PM

Ahhh...I see, thank you.

The Duggler · 03-25-2003, 10:08 AM

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Iraq has already fired several scud missiles, which according to them they didn't have. Luckily all of them have been shot down by our much improved patriot missiles. Those inspections sure did work, didn't they France?

Well, maybe if you would have let the UN actually finish the inspections they would have found them.

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Iraq also just recently violated the Geneva Convention by shooting one of our POWs through the head. Upon other violations. This is a great regime, isn't it?

Huh hello? it's war. And at least they are killing your soldiers, not your childrens.

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And of course Al Jazeera only reports the Iraqi propaganda and never any of the Allied victories. They aren't biased and/or influenced at all, now are they?

Yhea, they should take the example on the US media right?

gekko · 03-25-2003, 10:31 AM

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Well, maybe if you would have let the UN actually finish the inspections they would have found them.

No. It's not even debatable. Iraq was required to bring forth all of its weapons, and then the UN inspectors would inspect them, and destroy them. The UN was not in there to search, but they were searching. They searched for 10 years, and they couldn't get the job done. But of course, you have some reason to believe if we give them 50 years things will improve.

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Huh hello? it's war. And at least they are killing your soldiers, not your childrens.

First off, there are rules when it comes to war, believe it or not. It would be in our interest to kill the thousands of Iraqi troops who surrendered, but there is a difference between a country who violates human rights, and one who doesn't. And BTW, those soldiers are averaging 19 years old. You know what? Those are somebody's children, from a mother and father who said goodbye to them as little as one year ago.

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Yhea, they should take the example on the US media right?

Al Jazeera is showing the brutality of war, and showing what all the evil Americans are doing. That's pure propaganda. Don't believe me, look for yourself. But anyone other than Ranzid, take my advice, and don't look. It's nothing you care to see.

mickydaniels · 03-25-2003, 10:37 AM

Yeah, we don't have propaganda, neither. Right?
Ever watch that crappy good morning America?

Bond · 03-25-2003, 11:26 AM

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Well, maybe if you would have let the UN actually finish the inspections they would have found them.

Oh give me a break. No one country actually thought the inspections would work. And no country could honestly say Iraq was free of weapons of mass destruction. That's a joke.

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Huh hello? it's war. And at least they are killing your soldiers, not your childrens.

I apologize, I just thought civilized countries were held to moral ethical values that are enforced by the Geneva Convention. Oh wait, Iraq isn't a civilized country and does not follow any international laws.

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Yhea, they should take the example on the US media right?

At least the US media is not controlled by the government as Iraqi TV is. And at least the US media does not violate the Geneva Convention. Of course I think the US media is biased. But they aren't breaking any international laws such as Al Jazeera and Iraqi TV.