Too hack the cube...

07-05-2002, 10:32 AM

I'm a little confused on the issue

The laser is 650-672nm (visibly red) which means it can only read DVD material. If you put in a dvd-r, it will check the disc but then stop spinning since no game data was found and a CD-R will only spin for a second. The laser is unable to read cd media. My question is would it be possible to replace the laser with that of a dvd player? But could that leave the cube without the ability to play its own games?

Angrist · 07-05-2002, 10:59 AM

Ehm are those DVD-Rs mini ones?

Who would want to hack the Cube?

07-05-2002, 11:02 AM

I would since games are expensive.

I don't think it would matter if they were mini or not since a normal sized one could work if you take off the casing.

*sigh* Hmm, a Q would actually be cheaper in the long run since that's been hacked. I don't think the reason they didn't include CD and DVD playback was because its just a gaming machine like they've been saying but so they wouldn't loose money on games

Jonbo298 · 07-05-2002, 11:59 AM

If you look closely on the data side of the disc, you'll see a bar code on the edge of the "hole". The 'Cube checks to see that it is a valid code, and if not, then it doesn't run. It just says in a satanic voice, "Put a game in you f*ckin bastard!"

07-05-2002, 12:59 PM

Ok that explains why other DVD material won't run. But even if I was able to duplicate that bar code on a disc I still don't have the extremely expensive DVD burner.

GameKinG · 07-05-2002, 01:46 PM

Well, I think that would mess up your cube. But im no hacker.

Professor S · 07-05-2002, 02:02 PM

Hackers are scum.

Think about the consequences of hacking consoles before you do it. Think about the small development houses that get screwed, and the console companies who GO UNDER because of it like the Dreamcaast (I know therewere other reasons, but hacking was a BIG factor, especially internationally).

The information you are STEALING does not belong to you. It came from someone elses hard work, blood, sweat and tears.

Many development houses do NOT make millions of dollars a year. Take Big Blue Box for example. They are depending on Project Ego to do well. If it doesn't, consider it the end of BBB. If there are a lot of hacked copies of PE floating around the internet, the game will not sell as well as it could, and possibly could cost BBB money when they should be making a profit.

But I know there are many of you out there who either will make excuses for hacking ("They're all millionaires, one hacked game won't hurt them", "I don't have any money", etc.) or just don't care about the consequenses of your actions.

If you need to get hacked games, you need to get your ass a job. There is no excuse.

Shadow_Link · 07-05-2002, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
Hackers are scum.

Think about the consequences of hacking consoles before you do it. Think about the small development houses that get screwed, and the console companies who GO UNDER because of it like the Dreamcaast (I know therewere other reasons, but hacking was a BIG factor, especially internationally).

The information you are STEALING does not belong to you. It came from someone elses hard work, blood, sweat and tears.

Many development houses do NOT make millions of dollars a year. Take Big Blue Box for example. They are depending on Project Ego to do well. If it doesn't, consider it the end of BBB. If there are a lot of hacked copies of PE floating around the internet, the game will not sell as well as it could, and possibly could cost BBB money when they should be making a profit.

But I know there are many of you out there who either will make excuses for hacking ("They're all millionaires, one hacked game won't hurt them", "I don't have any money", etc.) or just don't care about the consequenses of your actions.

If you need to get hacked games, you need to get your ass a job. There is no excuse.

*Takes his hat off to The Strangler!*

If that wasn't enough, maybe this will be.

I assure you it would cost less to just buy the real copy than to find solutions to copy them, well, that's only in the Gc's case.

Jonbo298 · 07-05-2002, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Danchastu
Ok that explains why other DVD material won't run. But even if I was able to duplicate that bar code on a disc I still don't have the extremely expensive DVD burner.

How would you duplicate it? I don't think there is something out there (at least to the public) that can burn the barcode on there.

Null · 07-05-2002, 05:24 PM

have you tried putting a GC disk in your PC dvd player?

cuz i dont think even a DVD laser will read the disk.

if i remember correctly the GC technology was BASED off DVD. but not quite the same. And as i've always said the GC does NOT use mini DVD's. it uses Optical discs.

Anywho. my thought is even if you changed the laser, it woudlnt read em.

But then are you talking about just the laser or the whole tray part? Cuz you'd have to switch the whole tray. the laser on the GC wouldnt reach out far enough to read the edges of a full sized disc.

*shrugs* then again i could be talking out my ass.

One things for sure tho. People who feel the need to rip off $50 Games, are cheap ass bastards. :P

i mean for the love of god. its only 50 DOLLARS. thats NOTHING.

*reaches in his pocket, counts*

hey 50 bucks

*goes off and buys a game*

Jonbo298 · 07-05-2002, 05:31 PM

Thank god I own a 'Cube.

quiet mike · 07-05-2002, 10:31 PM

No piece of electronic equipment is safe from haking and Nintendo was smart enough to recognize that. They knew that someone along the way will make it posible to hack the GameCube. Knowing this they made sure that the haking of the GameCube will be soo costly that it wouldn't be profitable to do it as a buisiness, just as an expensive hobby.

First of all the media is slightly changed so that no normal DVD player can read it so you need a special one.
A special 128bit encription code is implemented with the code during printing of the medium. This code is an enhancment of Cpcom's 32bit encription code that took 10 years to crack partially.
Now even if you manage to crack the code, you need a CV burner and burn the game on a DVD an read it you still need tho use the medium of smaller size that can fit in the GameCube. You also need to bypass the boot sequence so it won't look for the special implementation in the DVD.

In the end this even though posible in the future, it will still cost to much to seel the burned copies at a competitive price without any waranties, booklets or case.

PureEvil · 07-06-2002, 04:37 AM

You cheap bastard! Just buy the damn games!

First you try downloading a Men in Black II bootleg, now you're talking about playing burned GameCube games. You disgust me!

(I know that sounded somewhat accusatory, so just in case you want to know about this for some reason other than your personal gain, uh... *runs away*)

Shadow_Link · 07-06-2002, 04:47 AM

LOL!

Anyway, just to add to the discussion. Even if you try and bring the Panacube into this, with it's capability to read DVD's and CDR's, I doubt it would be possible to pla copied games on that. My reason for this (total guess work) is that when it is set to just play games, the laser is instructed to only read to the limits of the normal sized GC disk.

That's my take on it anyway

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Jonbo298 · 07-06-2002, 02:22 PM

Don't know if this is correct but its what I'm thinking. I don't think its possible to play 'Cube games that have been burned onto a DVD and put into the Q. I think the Q's DVD player is for movies only. Since it looks for 2(3 if you want to count CD's) diff. formats. If its either a movie or a game. This isn't a PS2 which plays DVD games and reads DVD movies. But that's just my take on it.

*edit* Errr...I think I typed this eerily simliar to what Shadow said