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Old 03-08-2012, 01:30 AM   #1
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This has been spreading like wildfire around the internets

I know its long, but give it a watch.

This had 1,000,000 views this morning, now it is over 15,000,000 views tonight.

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:30 PM   #2
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There's always 2 sides to a story:

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Old 03-08-2012, 01:16 PM   #3
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Maybe it's just me, but that video doesn't present much of "another side."
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #4
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This is more of a rebuttal to the movie:

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Old 03-08-2012, 02:47 PM   #5
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This is so gay for a variety of reasons. That hipster douche makes it sound like all we have to do is arrest that guy and we will all be shitting rainbows. The situation is so much more complicated than that.

I want that 30 min of my life back.
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:56 PM   #6
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This is so gay for a variety of reasons. That hipster douche makes it sound like all we have to do is arrest that guy and we will all be shitting rainbows. The situation is so much more complicated than that.

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You could say you were...konned.
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:57 PM   #7
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My friend Eugene is in that video for a split-second and used to work for Invisible Children.

For people with criticisms, he's been directing them here. http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisibl...critiques.html

I don't personally have a lot to say about it, but I know Eugene is a good dude and this has always seemed like a great cause to me.
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:18 PM   #8
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:19 PM   #9
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The only Kony I want..... comes with chili and cheese.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:38 PM   #10
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Someone told me this was a scam. I didn't look into that, or what they even meant because I never watched the video or asked/cared what it was about in the first place. Because I don't give a single poop.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:59 PM   #11
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I think the bottom line is that Kony is a bad dude and needs to be stopped. I think you can argue in a way in which this project conveys that info, but they've certainly raised awareness and have people talking about it. That's a big deal.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #12
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The biggest criticism of Kony 2012 I've seen is the distribution of funds, but considering their business plan their distribution makes sense to me. They spend a lot on getting the word out because their mission is to get people's attention and keep their attention until the job is done. Basically, they want to influence world powers to take a stand against African warlords, and I think they're using the ICC's #1 enemy to give the effort international legitimacy. You can argue the plan is unsound, but I don't think there is any evidence to claim that it is insincere or they have false intentions. I think we spend far too much time debating people's sincerity these days. In politics, or otherwise. We've become cynical.

Personally? I think they should just us that money to hire Blackwater to track down and kill the guy, then move on the the next on the list.
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:24 PM   #13
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The biggest criticism of Kony 2012 I've seen is the distribution of funds, but considering their business plan their distribution makes sense to me. They spend a lot on getting the word out because their mission is to get people's attention and keep their attention until the job is done. Basically, they want to influence world powers to take a stand against African warlords, and I think they're using the ICC's #1 enemy to give the effort international legitimacy. You can argue the plan is unsound, but I don't think there is any evidence to claim that it is insincere or they have false intentions. I think we spend far too much time debating people's sincerity these days. In politics, or otherwise. We've become cynical.

Personally? I think they should just us that money to hire Blackwater to track down and kill the guy, then move on the the next on the list.
This is how I feel. People should research what they are donating to before they donate. IC is pretty up front with their love of making films to raise awareness. That stuff is expensive, it's pretty obvious that's where a lot of money is going to go to. Personally I think that's still a good cause.

The guy in the video you posted put a huge emphasis on how the money should be going "straight to the kids." I feel like constantly funneling your money into something like that is often like throwing it into a black hole. Nothing is going to change things long term if you don't cut out the root of the problem.

What IC is dong is pretty unique for a non-profit, I think it needs to exist.

As for the legitimacy of the plan, I don't think they need to go into details like that in a promotional film. The masses don't want to hear about foreign policy and all that it entails.

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Someone told me this was a scam. I didn't look into that, or what they even meant because I never watched the video or asked/cared what it was about in the first place. Because I don't give a single poop.
1. Didn't watch original video
2. Didn't watch rebuttal video
3. Didn't read response to the rebuttal video
4. Heard information second hand
5. Doesn't care

Conclusion: Shouldn't have posted
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:23 PM   #14
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If you donate or not, at least the message and awareness is being spread, and effectively at that. I see people making fun of those spreading the message on FB and other social media. Why?

1. How can you be against spreading awareness of such a topic? These are human beings.

2. It not causing you any grief at all.

3. It's a positive message

That being said, all the donating, posters, and advisers in the world wont capture the man. The job is left up to the Ugandan military to do all the grunt work. a 3rd world army with American advisers is still a 3rd world army.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:47 PM   #15
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Interesting model. The world has become smaller now; the U.S. gov't or any other gov't I know of was not designed to handle crimes outside of its jurisdiction, and maybe that should change but that's a bigger topic. Until then, it is time we speak up if just a little to help our brothers and sisters next door. I will do my small part to raise awareness -- tell people I know about Kony.
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