Bin Laden Dead

Professor S · 05-02-2011, 08:35 AM

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Too bad George W. Bush already blew the aircraft carrier and 'mission accomplished' banner budget. As well as the rest of your guys' money.

Well at least no one made this political...

Anyway, hats off the the President for giving the go ahead for committing to an action deep in Pakistan. With so many stories of American military mistakes and stagnation, its good to see a military action where the good guys live, the bad guys die, and everything goes as planned.

Navy Seals, bitches.

And yes, I'm waiting for the movie.

Vampyr · 05-02-2011, 10:44 AM

Evidently they have footage of the attack.

I bet they'll use it as the intro video for Modern Warfare 3.

KillerGremlin · 05-02-2011, 12:38 PM

It was amazing to see all the people in DC and at Ground Zero last night....it's hard to believe (IMO) that people still have hung onto to the actions of ONE guy. I mean....since 9/11....2 wars....a trillion+ spent....over 900,000+ dead...Patriot Act....TSA ass rape....

To say the least, a lot has changed in 10 years. I wonder if (and we can reflect on this some years into the future I am sure) the events of the past 10 years really did hinge on one act of terrorism driven by an organization lead by Osama, or if the pieces would have fallen into place anyway due to larger political issues.

Anyway, I always enjoy these brief moments of American unity where everyone gets together and celebrates how great it is to be an American. I hope this signifies a turning point for our country over the next 10 years.

Teuthida · 05-02-2011, 12:48 PM

^ The last brief moment of American unity was right after 9/11...and look how well that turned out.

KillerGremlin · 05-02-2011, 03:59 PM

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^ The last brief moment of American unity was right after 9/11...and look how well that turned out.

Well, that's the thing. Immediately following 9-11, there was a lot of hatred for Al Qaeda. Perhaps some of it was misguided...but hindsight is 20/20. When we went to war I would say it was a pretty 50-50 thing with a lot of people not wanting to go. But we had a solid scapegoat....terrorists. So now that there is no Osama Bin Laden, I suspect that the populace will be less enthusiastic about the war (which is also misguided o_O).

Dylflon · 05-02-2011, 04:23 PM

Interesting article on the effect of Bin Laden on America.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...bin-laden.html

KillerGremlin · 05-02-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

Interesting article on the effect of Bin Laden on America.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...bin-laden.html

Yup. This articles hits the nail on the head and kind of reflects the direction I was pointing my last two posts. After consideration, I don't think you can have a free society and never have terrorism. But accepting that implication hurts. It's not ideal, and my guess is that most people don't want to hear it. Hence...the past 10 years.

So then it becomes a policy debate around "where is the middle ground." What has the increased airport security, or the wars, or the Patriot Act really done to stop terrorism? And, how much have those measures helped compared to how much they have hurt us.

I think it will be under misguided pretense that many people will believe that we have absolved terrorism by dethroning Osama. We have crushed the Al Queda! My biggest concern at this point is that people won't actually learn from the history of the past 10 years, and lord knows if you don't learn from the past you inevitably repeat it.

Combine 017 · 05-02-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor S

Anyway, hats off the the President for giving the go ahead for committing to an action deep in Pakistan. With so many stories of American military mistakes and stagnation, its good to see a military action where the good guys live, the bad guys die, and everything goes as planned.

In the eyes of Al Qaeda the good guys die and the bad guys won.

I dont think American forces are going to leave Iraq now either.
At least at the end of WW1 they left Germany, and that turned out fine.

Professor S · 05-02-2011, 08:41 PM

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In the eyes of Al Qaeda the good guys die and the bad guys won..

And a rapist believes his victims "asked for it". Hitler believed Jews were pests to be exterminated for the good of the world. Evil always believes it is justified.

Combine 017 · 05-02-2011, 09:10 PM

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And a rapist believes his victims "asked for it". Hitler believed Jews were pests to be exterminated for the good of the world. Evil always believes it is justified.

Thats true, I quite frequently think im justified.

What did they do with Bin Ladens body anyways?
I heard they "buried" it at sea.

And dont add periods to the end of my quotes, thats tampering of personal documents.

Fox 6 · 05-02-2011, 09:19 PM

Way to lose a multi-million dollar helicopter in the Op. LOLZ

Professor S · 05-02-2011, 10:04 PM

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Thats true, I quite frequently think im justified.

What did they do with Bin Ladens body anyways?
I heard they "buried" it at sea.

It's preserved in amber in Paraguay, next to Hitler's brain.

Combine 017 · 05-02-2011, 10:07 PM

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It's preserved in amber in Paraguay, next to Hitler's brain.

Along with dinosaur DNA inside a mosquito.

Swan · 05-02-2011, 11:25 PM

Ok, just to get this straight I am in no way a fan of ANYTHING Osama did.

But does anybody find it a little strange to turn on the news and see crowds of people cheering over the death of a person?

I understand how he was the most hated person of the past decade and all that, but it still blows my mind to see thousands of people chanting because somebody died.