Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3 - Page 2

BreakABone · 04-17-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

Oh, and thank you BaBs for posting the rumors. I can still trust GT for my good source of Nintendo rumor news, and I am happy.

Well, not like much else is being discussed these days, and here are some more

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Controller
- 6" touchscreen, not HD, not multitouch
- D-Pad, L, R, two triggers, others
- 'Front-facing camera'
- A sensor roughly analagous to the Wii sensor bar is incorporated in the controller - i.e. some kind of IR beacons/transmitters. Purpose isn't clear.

Specs
- Custom triple-core PowerPC
- AMD/ATI GPU. 'Probably' derived from R700 series.
- RAM unknown
- Developer quotes: graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360", performance "over the Xbox 360, but just a notch"

Misc
- One other 'huge surprise' about the system

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Ubisoft studios have had development kits “for months”, motion-sensing “better than Move”; announcement at E3?

Sources have this morning confirmed reports that Nintendo has a successor to the Wii in the works, telling us that thirdparty studios including those of Ubisoft, Activision and Electronic Arts have had development units of the new hardware for months.

They have also claimed that the system retains motion control, with capabilities that are “better than Move”, meaning that they boast higher fidelity. We do not yet have word on whether or not its motion-controlled solution introduces a camera.

manasecret · 04-17-2011, 11:59 PM

Great rumor millings. The graphics equal to xbox360 is painful and probably the truest statement of all graphics related rumors. This is still Nintendo after all. I understand the thing has to be priced low, I get it, but I can't help always wishing for the best graphics ever despite the fact it wouldn't sell.

I was a big fan of the wii concept from the first reveal and always thought it was going to be a big hit, and of course it was. This one... I'm not feeling it yet. People think motion gaming is a gimmick. Maybe, but it's a 100 million unit selling gimmick. The screen in the controller is imo a real gimmick, since I don't think it serves enough of a purpose and therfore will not sell 100 million. But just initial thouhts, will wait for full details.

Not to mention... It's been done. I liked it, too, but that console... Didn't do so well. What console am I?

BreakABone · 04-18-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

Great rumor millings. The graphics equal to xbox360 is painful and probably the truest statement of all graphics related rumors. This is still Nintendo after all. I understand the thing has to be priced low, I get it, but I can't help always wishing for the best graphics ever despite the fact it wouldn't sell.

I was a big fan of the wii concept from the first reveal and always thought it was going to be a big hit, and of course it was. This one... I'm not feeling it yet. People think motion gaming is a gimmick. Maybe, but it's a 100 million unit selling gimmick. The screen in the controller is imo a real gimmick, since I don't think it serves enough of a purpose and therfore will not sell 100 million. But just initial thouhts, will wait for full details.

Not to mention... It's been done. I liked it, too, but that console... Didn't do so well. What console am I?

Yeah, if you figure MS can charge about 200 now for the arcade unit and turn a profit, something slightly more advanced for 250 would be Nintendo's starting point I guess.

As for the rumors... honestly... it boggles my mind as well... in no way does this seem practical...

I really.. am curious about e3 now, not that I wasn't before.

Though slightly unrelated... I did always say I wanted the Dreamcast's VMUs to return... haha

Blix · 04-18-2011, 12:59 AM

That controller is going to cost a pretty penny. And I wonder how the graphics capabilities will be. I doubt all of the info will be streamlined. I suppose small apps will work inside the controller.

Angrist · 04-18-2011, 02:29 AM

I hope it's all a big lie. I don't see this working at all...

thatmariolover · 04-18-2011, 10:33 AM

We'll all know more come E3. Some have suggested it's 'significantly' more powerful than the PS3 while others say only a notch above the 360.

Regardless, I still think it's either too soon or too late for a console. But I think a lot of people expected the Wii to lose momentum before the PS3/360. And while it's easy to draw parallels to the Dreamcast, I don't think it's going to be a flop of quite that magnitude (as the Dreamcast was hindered by unrestricted mass piracy).

I think the screen could be cool for UI elements (swapping equipment, inventory management, Four Swords/Pac-Man Vs. type gameplay. But who wants to spend more for controllers when a full Wiimote/Nunchuck was $50 for ages?

thatmariolover · 04-20-2011, 01:40 PM

Sorry for the bump but it's for a good cause. Possibly legit mockup with partial description:

manasecret · 04-20-2011, 02:16 PM

Good rumor photos. Looks very similar to IGN's mockup.

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

We'll all know more come E3. Some have suggested it's 'significantly' more powerful than the PS3 while others say only a notch above the 360.

Yeah but these type of rumors remind of times before with Nintendo, for I believe for both the Wii and the DS, and we all know those didn't match their rivals in horsepower. Of course, they beat them in other ways.

Angrist · 04-20-2011, 03:31 PM

Yeah but the Wii was faster than the XBox and GameCube. Now the Yuu won't even be as fast as the PS3?? That's just not thinking ahead.

BreakABone · 04-20-2011, 07:27 PM

I think that mock-up looks too much like IGN's to be real.

And being online long enough for the reveal of the Gamecube and the Wii, I'm not gonna take any stock in "leaks" until e3.

Because no one gets it close to what Nintendo ultimately reveals.

Some are saying this is closest to description ATM.

gekko · 04-21-2011, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

Yeah but the Wii was faster than the XBox and GameCube. Now the Yuu won't even be as fast as the PS3?? That's just not thinking ahead.

Define "faster." The Wii isn't all that different from the GameCube, and it lacks features found on the original Xbox.

Also, journalists love numbers that make good headlines. "Wii 1.5-2 times faster than GameCube." What does faster even mean? CPU clock speed? GPU clock speed? Memory access speeds? It's all pretty meaningless without the details. And looking at the Wii's GPU, it may be faster, but still way behind the times in terms of its feature set.

I'm curious to see if they get DX11-level hardware. I certainly would expect nothing less from the next consoles, but they're still running fixed-function hardware, so going from 0 shaders to 6 would be a bit of a jump. Also interested to see what type of CPU they go with, and if they're ever going to give us surround sound.

Ginkasa · 04-21-2011, 11:50 AM

So long as they don't delay Skyward Sword so its a launch title for this system I'll be happy.

BreakABone · 04-21-2011, 01:02 PM

http://kotaku.com/#!5794424/fresh-de...the-wii-remote

More gossip on the Wii 2 controller.

Sounds like a traditional controller with a cell phone in the middle.

thatmariolover · 04-21-2011, 01:33 PM

I just can't get excited for this thing. It has so many things going against it. Hopefully E3 has some more positive details.

BreakABone · 04-21-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I just can't get excited for this thing. It has so many things going against it. Hopefully E3 has some more positive details.

New consoles always have a tinge of excitement for me, but honestly... none of this stuff matters since its all about the games.. and honestly seeing if they can gain some form of 3rd party support.