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Old 09-14-2010, 04:49 PM   #1
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I'm not talking about the citizenship part, he's right about that. I mean the first sentences, the second and third one make it sound like the guy was born in the USA but had Canadian origins. Which he just said he didn't.
My comments about roots were to show that making the argument that citizenship is the same as race is incorrect.

Example: I am an American citizen, but my roots are Pict/Celt and Saxon (as far as I can trace them). Anything I invent would be defined as an American invention, or at the most a European American invention. It would not be considered an Scottish or British in invention as they describe citizenship, and I am not a citizen of those countries.

Perhaps he had dual citizenship, who knows, but I think its safe to say that there is much more evidence to suggest Basketball is an American invention, even if only because it was invented in America and thrived here long before anywhere else.
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Re: Ok, this probably won't happen again for a million years.. Turkey - USA final!
Old 09-15-2010, 02:30 AM   #2
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Default Re: Ok, this probably won't happen again for a million years.. Turkey - USA final!

Psst... Canada is in a contenent called North America. So even if he was born in raised in Canada and was never a US citezen, he'd still be an "American". So Wiki simply saying he's an 'Canadian American' doesn't say anything. Being an "American" is the most vauge thing you can be since almost everyone in the western hemisphere could be considered one.

Was the sport created in Canada or the US? Who knows... But it was created by a Canadian.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:48 AM   #3
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He was an American, regardless of where he was born...America is a country, and his citizenship was American. Therefore he is American...Perhaps he had dual citizenship, who knows,
He was born a Canadian who, when he was 30 - moved to Springfield to teach at the YMCA.

He was the son of two Scottish immigrants.
So he is a Scottish-Canadian, who took dual-citizenship after the age of 30 to become a Canadian-Born Scot, living in America; while still being Canadian.

He moved to the US to become the Phys Ed teacher at the YMCA. Not because he hated one country, or loved another. Because he liked the job that was offered, and needed to be a dual-citizen to work there. Was he an American? No. He was a Canadian-American. The reason the "Canadian" part gets thrown to the side is because the sport was conceived in the US, despite the inventor, so omitting the fact he is/was Canadian, makes it seem like a purely American creation.


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