The Motion Controls War

[BreakABone]

Investor is pretty high on the possibility of MS to sell Kinect
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...yr-caris-says/

"Microsoft (MSFT) Kinect, the company’s new motion and voice control add-on for the Xbox 360, could generate $2 billion in incremental consumer spending on video games in the first year after launch, with 50%-60% of that going to Microsoft itself, Caris & Co. analyst Sandeep Aggarwal asserts in a research note.

He sees four ways Kinect can help Microsoft:

* “Material” attach rate for 40 million Xbox 360 installed base; he expects 15%-25% of current owners to buy Kinect in the first year. A 15% attach rate at $149 would mean almost $900 million in incremental hardware revenue.
* Higher adoption and market share gain for the console. He figures the company could sell an incremental one million consoles in the first year, or about $300 million in incremental revenue.
* Sale of new software titles.
* Lower attrition and higher gross subscriber growth for Xbox Live."

15-25% of current console owners would be between 6-10 million Kinect units sold in the first year, which is a pretty... well high figure in my estimate.

Also, I was trying to think, but what does everyone think will be the killer app for the PSMove?

[Typhoid]

Also, I was trying to think, but what does everyone think will be the killer app for the PSMove?

Do you mean game?
I think you mean game.
Apps are those things for iphones.

[Hitman0769]

I just want to say that at E3 2010 I got a chance to play a few PlayStation MOVE titles and I was impressed. The responsiveness was like a Wii on steroids (and I actually enjoy the Wii). There is dead-on accuracy even better than was seen on stage at the Sony Press Conference, which led me to believe that the titles like Sorcery were not nearly done being QA tested yet, they should be much more responsive by the time they hit Alpha/Beta/Final phases.

All around I'm not saying I want to forever abandon my DualShock 3 controller but the MOVE is amazing definitely. No offense but I feel like if you disagree you must hate the Wii also and/or have never actually tried the device.

The Kinect on the other hand looks pretty awful because you can't wear baggy clothes, need a 20ft open area in all directions, and it has crap for titles... This was the biggest let-down of E3 because Microsoft really boasted how great the device would be and failed to deliver any exciting titles (in my opinion). I still hold on hope for it in the long term, but as it stands right now I am just really disappointed that a really old technology like this which has been done before on PC, Dreamcast, PS2, and PS3 (and never had a good game on any of those systems either mind you) is looking more primitive and unimpressive than ever on the Xbox 360.

-Jon Ireson (Contributing Editor at www.DualShockers.com)

[gekko]

The Kinect has been done before... that's a new one.

[Typhoid]

About the Kinect; if you take away the fact you can't wear baggy clothes and need huge space in every direction - it's still pretty innovative [for home markets] and still amazing technologically.

[Hitman0769]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

About the Kinect; if you take away the fact you can't wear baggy clothes and need huge space in every direction - it's still pretty innovative [for home markets] and still amazing technologically.

What's so innovative about a web cam with boring games?

Maybe you need to take a look at this video before you say it's innovative:

http://dualshockers.com/2010/03/05/i...ll-over-again/

It sucked before on other platforms, it will suck again on xbox... hope they announce a controller with it so it's not so lame forever

[Typhoid]

What's so innovative about a web cam with boring games?

Motion technology in games that tracks the entire user.

The caliber of the games has nothing to do with it.

[Hitman0769]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Motion technology in games that tracks the entire user.

The caliber of the games has nothing to do with it.

If the caliber of the games has nothing to do with it then neither will I. I'm just saying...