Xbox Gets Slim, Natal Becomes Kinect

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Originally Posted by Xantar

As three separate people have been trying to point out to you now, the price is too high, the timing is too late, and the support is too little.

This isn't Minority Report. Three people and their opinions don't dictate anything. You're not pre-cogs, you're all the exact same thing I am. A dude posting on the internet. Nothing makes your assumptions more valid than mine. I'll use my pre-cog abilities - however - to see into the future to the point where you make a long post arguing that your opinion is better than mine.

The thing about the cost is it's perspective. If 3 of you don't want to buy Move/Kinect, neat. Then don't. Maybe you can't afford it. I assume not - if price is an issue for you. I however, plan on buying Move. But of course that doesn't matter, because 1 is the loneliest number, right.

I also don't see the timing as 'too late'. Next Gen isn't for a while, still. It would be 'Too late' if they already announced the next gen consoles and peripherals, and loads of games lined up. But they haven't. I don't call 1-2 years "too late" in a consoles life for anything to do with that console to be released. Again, if you think a year or two is a short, unmeasurable amount of time to do with the lifespan of a console, neat.

And of course there isn't any support yet. It's not even released. With that theory I can assume the 3DS will crash and burn terribly because there isn't a bucketload of games out for it. Next gen will be terrible because no games have been announced. And don't even think of saying 'Next gen' is too far away - because that timeframe is your argument against the Move/Kinect.

There is no such thing in business as finding some kind of "absolute bottom" number and then extrapolating from that to figure out how well something would sell if you actually developed it properly.

No, but there is something called 'Public Interest'.
3D TV's didn't come out before 3D movies proved people want [good] 3D technology. A 3D handheld didn't come out before that, either. If 3D TV's were on the public market before [good] 3D movies, that would be a different story.

The math does not allow you to separate out the factors like that. There is no math formula that says, "If Kinect sells 100,000 units, that means it will sell 5 million if you built a console from the ground up to include it." Any economist will tell you that.

What's your point? That's not even what I was talking about.

This makes zero percent chance from a business standpoint. Developing a product and releasing it with the expectation that it will fail is a horrible way to do business.

There are two problems with this.
Problem A: Testing a market makes 0 sense? Really? Really?
Problem B: You are expecting it to fail. Not them.

But hey, if you think it's such a good tactic, go buy some Microsoft stock. I'll be happy to short sell against you.

I'll do you one better. I'll buy a Move.