Over/Under: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time

BreakABone · 05-28-2010, 10:52 PM

Oft times considered the greatest game of all time. The pinnacle of 3D gaming, the hallmark of any n64 library.

But after 12 years does the game still hold the charm?

So what are your thoughts? Is it still the best Zelda? Is it the greatest game of all time? Does it give you that tingling feeling in your pantaloons?

Vampyr · 05-29-2010, 12:07 AM

I don't think you can consider it over or underrated. It is the greatest game ever made.

Xantar · 05-29-2010, 12:11 AM

It invented auto jumping and lock on targeting. For those alone, it would be one of the most fundamental games since we moved into 3-D. The fact that it also had a perfectly paced adventure, great graphics for the time, an outstanding soundtrack and creative puzzles which still hold up today are just gravy.

Bube · 05-29-2010, 03:49 AM

I regret to say that I've never finished this game. Don't know if I ever will..

Nighthawk · 05-29-2010, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Does it give you that tingling feeling in your pantaloons?

yes, yes it does...

incredibledave · 05-29-2010, 03:47 PM

Wind Waker was better

1. Better art direction
2. Better comedy (I bet you can still picture that scene where Link is hurled in the fortress by catapult)
3. Better beginning to the second act (admit it, scaling that fortress is better than Gandondorf showing up, stealing your trinkets and turning the world into an apocalyptic hell-scape off screen while an old dude dumps exposition on you and you now have no items)
4. Zelda actually has a role in Wind Waker (no, that Sheik nonsense doesn't count, s/he didnt do anything but hand out songs and lazily build up a twist)

The boat traveling may be tiresome but so was that obnoxiously huge over-world in OoT

Now that doesn't mean OoT is a bad game. Most of the advantages I listed are only possible because of the technology that simply wasnt available on the n64. And they basically have the same gameplay (hack-slash combat, puzzle solving dungeons and boss-shaped puzzle challenges).

I still love the idea of the Spirit temple though.

magus113 · 05-30-2010, 11:18 AM

The one that Twilight Princess tried to trump but still just barely lost, in my opinion. Wind Waker is a great game. I was very moved with the ending. But nope.

Still the best game of all time.

And I think it still holds up well. While the graphics aren't amazing for it's time today, they were still pretty damn good for not requiring an expansion pack for one, and the progressive scan version with the Wind Waker bonus disc definitely gives it a little kick.

The gameplay held up too since essentially the gameplay is still the same now and probably will be since they found the format that works on their first try.

This also reminds me I still need to finish Majora's Mask fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

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Originally Posted by incredibledave

The boat traveling may be tiresome but so was that obnoxiously huge over-world in OoT

You'd probably hate the Twilight Princess overworld then if that's the case. The overworld there is HUGE.

BlueFire · 05-30-2010, 01:57 PM

The over-world in OoT wasn't really huge. Boat traveling in WW was fun but got old very quickly.

I still OoT very close to my heart. I don't know about the greatest game of all time title, but I'd feel weird giving that title to any game. I have beaten that game so many times--more than any other game I've played. It holds a special place in my heart :P

Jason1 · 05-30-2010, 05:25 PM

Ive said it a lot, I believe OOT to be the greatest game ever made.

Blix · 05-30-2010, 06:21 PM

OOT was ahead of its time and few games manage to do that. It is also a timeless game, so obviously people feel inclined to think it is the best game of all time. And IMO it cannot be anything but under rated. But if you ask me, Mario 64 deserves much more credit than OOT for being the first game that did 3D gaming completely right with analog sticks, having a perfect camera system ( I don't know why they screwed it up in Mario Sunshine) and simply getting everything right. So I think Super Mario 64 deserves the best game of all time, it's just that Zelda is more epic. But still, best game game of all time or not, it definitely is one of the best games of all time and that's not a matter of opinion.

Storm Eagle · 05-31-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by incredibledave

Wind Waker was better

1. Better art direction
2. Better comedy (I bet you can still picture that scene where Link is hurled in the fortress by catapult)

I had no idea Zelda was known for comedy.

As for the original question asked, yes, I believe that it does hold up to this day.

Angrist · 05-31-2010, 11:05 AM

I replayed OoT (Master Quest with hard but poorly designed dungeons) last year. It was so much better than I remembered, it can still compete with most games of this generation.

If any game could be called the best game ever (I don't believe in such terms), OoT would be it.
Not sure if it's underrated though...

TheGame · 06-01-2010, 09:52 AM

I have to follow the people who say OoT was better. Don't get me wrong though, Wind waker was an awesome game... Heck, I'd even call them at the same level if it wasn't for one big factor.

That factor being, WW's connection to OoT is what made it epic in the first place. That's what kept me going in WW.

Also, to whoever said WW has "better direction", I fail to see how that is. WW was fine up until you started to have to find those triforce charts/shards. I usually try to play a game without a strategy guide, but at one point I was wondering around aimlessly for over 5 hours of gameplay trying to look for a HINT of where to go next.

That simply didn't happen to me in OoT.

KillerGremlin · 06-01-2010, 03:02 PM

Ocarina of Time was a special game. It was one of the original N64 titles that transitioned 2D into 3D. I maintain that OoT is the best 3D Zelda game thus far, and for me I doubt I will ever play a Zelda game that tops the overall OoT experience.

I could sit here and tell you why OoT is so special to me:
-riding Epona for the first time
-running across Hyrule field and watching the sunset
-spending hours fishing
-pulling the Master Sword out of the stone
-time travel between adult and childhood
-8+ temples (3 kiddie levels, forest, fire, water, spirit, shadow, AND ice, bottom of the well, Ganon's castle)
-the hookshot in 3D
-side quests that felt meaningful
-challenging and original puzzles that have simply been re-used way too many times in the newer Zelda games
-Gerudo fortress
-killing chickens/riding chickens

And as Xantar noted, the game was perfectly paced and I personally think OoT has a modestly sized world.

The answers in this thread are in my opinion very obvious. Everyone knows OoT is the best 3D Zelda game.

What I don't get is why this thread is not about Majora's Mask. I feel like Majora's Mask really gets shafted. I personally think Majora's Mask is strangely underrated and perhaps just as good if not better than WW and TP. And Majora's Mask is the only 3D Zelda title to actually make strides towards originality post-OoT. What's up with that!

OoT > Wind Waker > Twilight Princess aka Original > Sequel > Sequel
OoT ---> Majora's Mask aka Original --> Evolution with Innovation

Typhoid · 06-01-2010, 04:18 PM

Honestly, I think it's overrated.
I'm not saying the game is crap, I like the game. I've beaten it a few times.
But it's not "The Best Zelda game ever", nor is it [in my opinion] one of 'the best games ever'.

I think it's great for the exact same reason FFVII was considered a great game.
Little kids who grew up playing 2D versions of both series' suddenly play a game from that series that's in 3D, so it's the first time you feel really immersed in the world you're playing.